oh please....u used that old phrase...I'm innocent...so original....and voting for someone u suspect as don...what u hiding?
I made it my catchphrase in Mafia 2. And it was true.
What am I hiding? My monitor from the window into my office.
oh please....u used that old phrase...I'm innocent...so original....and voting for someone u suspect as don...what u hiding?
Even when I don't post I end up near the coin toss first day every game!
Anyone got a paddle?
See milk sating if I'm still alive tomorrow I should be killed is silly.
Mainly because if I was Mafia, I'd remember that, not kill metro night and then let the town lynch me tomorrow so they can then use their kill on someone else and gr rid of 2 people![]()
Even when I don't post I end up near the coin toss first day every game!

Within the very first part of the OP it says "there may be consequences to what you say and do"
If Biscan is innocent, I fully expect him to be killed come nightfall.
Voting for him would be silly in this regard because if he is lynched we won't know if we can speak out about being pressured by the heavy.
Of course, if he's Mafia then none of this matters.

Anyone got a paddle?
See milk sating if I'm still alive tomorrow I should be killed is silly.
Mainly because if I was Mafia, I'd remember that, not kill metro night and then let the town lynch me tomorrow so they can then use their kill on someone else and gr rid of 2 people![]()
You're a bit like Teflon Gerrez though!
Always on the chopping block but never actually being killed.
let's keep it that way! I don't mind being in danger for a town strategy, but I'd rather not die just yet!Indeed... so if he doesn't die tonight that doesn't tell us as much.
So.
A) He's bluffing (and no one is countering his claim with their own because the heavy didn't pressure ANYONE). Motive: He's Mafia and wants to make people think he is innocent.
B) He's not bluffing and innocent.
C) Some other "twist" unrevealed.
B is probably most likely. A is something IBWT is very capable of doing- and if we do keep him alive we should keep a close eye on him for the rest of the game. C- we can't really prepare for this. Just don't let ourselves get blinkered into thinking there isn't a third possibility. IBWT has to remain a suspect for the rest of the game now.
I'm not saying with 100% certainty. Certainly wouldn't be evidence in a court of law... but in Mafia you have to look for any little clue like that. Human nature... if you're on to PM you're going to want to post to. Would take good foresight and will power not to.
I'm fairly sure the heavy will be on that rather long short list. Not 100% sure... but it is some of the only evidence we have so far.
As far as I'm aware we have nothing to tell us he's innocent or guilty...at all. It's possible he's being forced...it's possible he's trying to sneak in a free vote for Sky. No one has counter claimed but he is as yet one person putting Sky under threat....whilst his story may be true we can't just dismiss him as a "leave him until tomorrow"...

No-one likes me![]()
Something like that though you need to be clear. No where in rules says I have to keep quiet?
Ah well, I know I'm innocent and have been stitched up night one
Just hope you lot can believe me and not be lured into the trap.
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You're a bit like Teflon Gerrez though!
Always on the chopping block but never actually being killed.

Why is B most likely? Surely we just can't tell either wayAs far as I'm aware we have nothing to tell us he's innocent or guilty...at all. It's possible he's being forced...it's possible he's trying to sneak in a free vote for Sky. No one has counter claimed but he is as yet one person putting Sky under threat....whilst his story may be true we can't just dismiss him as a "leave him until tomorrow"...
If Bisc is innocent and doesn't change his vote from Sky then Mafia could potentially get 4 votes for Sky tonight, take out another innocent and we're already in big trouble.
If Bisc is mafia and we agree not to take him out we are giving him a free vote for Sky
Whilst his vote is for Sky we surely HAVE to keep some pressure on him.
As for the "Village Idiot" idea....if he IS a village idiot then surely we want him gone ASAP otherwise he's going to be a nuisance all game![]()
We need Sky to join the discussion!
Say the mafia are stitching up IBWT by making us think he 's the mafia. One of the ideas would then presumably be for us to start voting IBWT. So presumably a couple (not all) might start voting for IBWT in order to put some pressure on. Or, they may wait to see fit he doubts take hold, and if they realise it is isn't flying, safely deposit votes elsewhere. I'm guessing that at least two of the mafia haven't voted yet.
Within the very first part of the OP it says "there may be consequences to what you say and do"
If Biscan is innocent, I fully expect him to be killed come nightfall.
Voting for him would be silly in this regard because if he is lynched we won't know if we can speak out about being pressured by the heavy.
Of course, if he's Mafia then none of this matters.
He's been suspiciously quiet. Maybe we should vote for him?
or you could be trying to influence us.
right now i'd like to just focus on what we know... and not gt down a rabbit hole of mights.
the votes cast thus far are not written in stone but they do give us 4 players at risk and thats real.
Now you should have seen how i picked my target out at random using the date today and the list i'd done on the sign up thread. thats the sum total of why lucaas is up there. Is this correct?
On day one some lads always skirt by and some always get picked out. there is a good reason why ibwt is up. thats fair... I think ibwt you knew getting the message you'd be up. gerrez is up there for no reason bar being gerrez. Others have not got picked out
so we got to ask ourselves. if we like a 4 way tie are the right guys up and also based on this whats the final vote going to look like. Do we want 2 votes to decide this or do we want 3 or even 4 votes each.. what would it tell us?
I did the maths last time. getting a tie up there increases mafia risk

Why would the mafia try and kill sky? Surely as the only known innocent it's ridiculous to try and kill him? Basically anyone who adds there vote to IBWT is mafia. It's too obvious surely?
I'm going to ignore ibwts vote and put it down as being due to the Heavy, for now, but keep it noted down for later in the game incase he does anything else suspicious. That said I don't mind him being in the coin toss, the more in there with me the better![]()
I also made the vote before IBWT's revelation (I think), not sure if that makes me more or less suspicious.