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Josh Tymon

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by cdtiger, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I was wrong there, just looked at the transfer structure.

    Assuming we registered him at age 9, we'd get somewhere between £59k and £71.5k.

    No amount of first team appearances for us would make any difference, he could have played every game for the past two years and that's all we'd be entitled to.

    He can sign a professional full time contract age 17 then it's up to us what we sell him for.
     
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  2. PLT

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    I get your point but we don't develop youngsters. He could look at Greg Luer or Conor Townsend and see what reward he'e likely to get for playing well for us. Young players leave us because they're better off elsewhere.

    Hope it's bollocks anyway.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

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    I think that's certainly true in the past, but if anyone can see how much things have changed in our academy of the past two years, it's our current crop.

    Problem is, for a club like ours, however good the academy gets, the lads are always likely to have their heads turned by interest from a big club.
     
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  4. PLT

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    It's not the academy though it's once they leave it. They get a chance in the cup and if they take that chance and play well... then they still don't get a chance in a league game. Eventually they get old and get released having made 2 first team appearances aged 22.

    We complain that the U21s isn't a good enough standard yet they're beating other good sides who bring players through. What more can they do to prove themselves?

    If what you've heard is true, then it's exactly the same as Paul Anderson in that we've only noticed that our own player is a prospect worth keeping once a bigger club has come in for him, a massive shame.
     
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  5. SydneyTiger14

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    United have a very good record with youngsters, if he were to end up there. You only have to look at the fees they sell them for to realise United rarely stand in the way of a young player's development and what is best for the player.
     
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  6. TIGERSCAVE

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    Uniteds academy team have now lost 11 on the spin according to Talk Sport tonight. They were talking about the Glazers reduction in support of 15% to their academy programme.
     
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    Yet they still play 2 or 3 new youngsters in the first team every year.
     
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    He joined them at age 13.
     
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  9. Cortez91

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    Where are the rumours coming from for those of you who think Liverpool, Man Utd and Southampton are sniffing?

    I've heard nothing of the sort.
     
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    How do you "know" that?

    I'm not doubting you - just curious where it's come from?
     
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  11. SydneyTiger14

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    And yet look at the vast amount of kids that come out of that club and have successful careers elsewhere.
     
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    There was a documentary about Chelsea and the money they invest in signing players to their academy and how many actually make it. The numbers were minuscule.
     
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  13. SydneyTiger14

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    Which is why I was mentioning United's academy not Chelsea's.
     
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  14. GLP

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    Sorry, my bit about the Chelsea Academy was nothing to do with your comment about the Man Utd academy.
     
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    Generally a 16 year old at MU is not going to have his head turned by the chance of going to another club. So, later on with the lad on a professional contract United can get a million or so for him.
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

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    Then we'll get about 40k
     
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    great debut and obviously a great prospect - just hope we can hold onto him - ultimately it will depend on whether he can meet, what I imagine must be his objectives of playing in the Premier League - clearly he isn't ready yet so signing for a top club will not guarantee him that straight away as he will spend most of his time either on the bench or farmed out on loan to get game time - we do need to do something positive though otherwise we will lose him for peanuts and also lose someone who is just the type of player we should be hanging on to
     
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  18. dennisboothstash

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    I don't know if it's right or not
    I was just saying that given the reporting, and build up around whether he was going to play or not I wasn't surprised he ended up with his own song on his debut
     
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  19. TIGERSCAVE

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    More importantly IMO, he should be a standard bearer for other youngsters coming through the academy, let them see that its entirely possible. To have 'one of our own' on the pitch adds something to the side IMO what I'd love to see his climb up the ladder when he's 20 ala Luke Shaw, i'd have no issue with that. His parents will have a lot to do with it of course and it would be hoped that they might show the same loyalty and respect to the club as the club have in nurturing his talents. As I said, let him be a bigger fish here than a minnow at some other club.
     
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  20. Brucebones

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    What was the song?

    Tymon is on our side?<cheers>
    The Stones Time is on my side, in case anyone didn't get it!
     
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