Transfer Rumours January Transfer Thread

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I don't understand why we persist with 'he' as if he was a traditional style manager. He's not. Recruitment is ultimately down to the DOF, which to all intents and purposes is Tan. Of course Liam will have input, as will Acun, but it's a very different recruitment model to the one you appear to be referring to.

You seem to think LR has less of an influence then he does for some reason.....why's that?
 
Are we still talking about the position acun “wouldn’t take a risk” with ?

Acun has to be fair to him, had gone out and delivered exactly what LR has asked for and he didn't think he needed it in the system he had chosen to implement
 
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That one he's never spent a transfer fee on. Tetteh and Oscar were LR's fault too I suppose.

Hang on...everyone's saying oscar had to go because of how expensive he was/is, just because we managed to get him on a free doesn't mean he wasn't a big investment.....
 
Hang on...everyone's saying oscar had to go because of how expensive he was/is, just because we managed to get him on a free doesn't mean he wasn't a big investment.....

While that's true to an extent, the point is there's a trend of us using less of the budget on strikers than Acun originally claimed and that pre dates Rosenior. There is clearly a blended approach to recruitment and I'm sure Rosenior pushed for Connolly, and perhaps Delap, but blaming him for Ohio is quite unfair in the same way you can't praise him for Omur.
 
While that's true to an extent, the point is there's a trend of us using less of the budget on strikers than Acun originally claimed and that pre dates Rosenior. There is clearly a blended approach to recruitment and I'm sure Rosenior pushed for Connolly, and perhaps Delap, but blaming him for Ohio is quite unfair in the same way you can't praise him for Omur.

Blaming him for Ohio as an individual, yes ok is wrong. But he's to blame for the approach he's decided to take and it was him who said to acun and tan etc that what we would call a #9 wasn't wanted/needed and it's left us unbalanced as a squad.... Come the end of the season, we will see if it was a mater stroke or the wrong choice.
 
As brucie said “your only as good as your strikers”
Acun bought tetteh and Oscar, we’ve since shipped them out. Neither have been of the quality of the “10’s” we’ve signed.
Neither have gone on to anything better than us, whilst Oscar bagged 13 in his first season. Rosie didn’t fancy him and there must be a reason he’s ended up in Brazil.
 
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While that's true to an extent, the point is there's a trend of us using less of the budget on strikers than Acun originally claimed and that pre dates Rosenior. There is clearly a blended approach to recruitment and I'm sure Rosenior pushed for Connolly, and perhaps Delap, but blaming him for Ohio is quite unfair in the same way you can't praise him for Omur.
I'm just guessing here as someone will know better... but if you put the wages of Ohio, Sharp and Connolly together, add in a few agents fees here and there, accommodation etc etc, we'd have got something like we wanted or had enough to pay Oscar or get someone decent in...
 
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You seem to think LR has less of an influence then he does for some reason.....why's that?

His parameters are set by those above him. He's a head coach tasked with getting the most out of the squad he's given. He isn't the architect behind recruitment as you seem to think.

And if you're 'blaming' LR for the approach he's decided to take, then that approach has got us from a relegation scrap to playoff hopefuls in 3 transfer windows.
 
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I'm just guessing here as someone will know better... but if you put the wages of Ohio, Sharp and Connolly together, add in a few agents fees here and there, accommodation etc etc, we'd have got something like we wanted or had enough to pay Oscar or get someone decent in...

A 1 year deal, a 6 month deal and a youngster on loan is nothing like carrying the wage liability of a non- starting high earner who's got another year after this and is actually generating 1m in loan fees this season so far and is expected to generate another 3m in summer.

Essentially, Oscar is paying for all but 1m of the philogene signing - who in turn will generate even more profit and fund even more recruitment.

The only real way to assess it is whether or not we are stronger this season as a result of ins and outs. And by every rational measure, we are.
 
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Blaming him for Ohio as an individual, yes ok is wrong. But he's to blame for the approach he's decided to take and it was him who said to acun and tan etc that what we would call a #9 wasn't wanted/needed and it's left us unbalanced as a squad.... Come the end of the season, we will see if it was a mater stroke or the wrong choice.

They signed what we would call a no 9 in Delap.

Oscar was big enough to be a 9, couldn't play effectively as one though in this league. A non entity when asked to drop deep, can't play with his back to goal. He's a poacher, but a streaky and inconsistent one at that.

Tetteh was more like a 9, but he was never available.

And come the end of the season if we've scored more than last season as a result of our business then it's ultimately the right choice.
 
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I would imagine we had several striker options that we were pursuing for January. But they went somewhere else (eg Moore) or stayed where they were. Them’s the breaks.
 
As brucie said “your only as good as your strikers”
Acun bought tetteh and Oscar, we’ve since shipped them out. Neither have been of the quality of the “10’s” we’ve signed.
Neither have gone on to anything better than us, whilst Oscar bagged 13 in his first season. Rosie didn’t fancy him and there must be a reason he’s ended up in Brazil.


The reason Brucie was always saying that too was that we rarely had the budget to go and sign a proven one at prem level. Long would have been the only one really. And he wanted away as soon as Southampton came sniffing.

Not having a marquee no 9 of the level is something that's been a recurring issue for years now, except maybe in L1. Last one we had at championship level was pretty much Abel - and his limitations became more evident in the PL.

It's not something unique to this ownership or head coach by any means. Just means it's the hardest position to fill on a relatively limited budget.
 
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