Was it? I suppose we amounted 3 more points than the previous season.
Holloway Gone! Steve McClaren In?
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My approval, or otherwise, is dependent on two things. Firstly being entertained with some decent football. Secondly, and rather intimately linked with the first, is some hope of greater success at some stage. I am not a 'Champions League in 5 tears or you're out' sort of supporter!
So I am perfectly willing to give SM my full support if he's appointed.
I am, however, puzzled as to why he might be appointed with such poor win rates in his most recent managerial posts. Surely The Board must know this and have some logical reason to believe it will be different at QPR?
It’s not in chronological order, for some reason, so your point is wrong. Those stats are much better than I expected, and in a totally different league to Holloway’s. McLaren had a near 46% win rate in his last job, Holloway's highest ever win rate at any club was near 40%, with us in his first spell.
Holloway first spell ...
G - 252 W - 100 D - 71 L - 81 W% - 40%
Second spell ...
G - 80 W - 26 D - 14 L - 40 W% - 33%
His last stint in the championship (Derby) he had a win rate of 45%; while Holloway has a 34% win rate. So some may argue that’s an improvement.
Interesting that some of his better figures are in the Championship, so maybe there is optimism from those statistics.
Perhaps his coaching skills and working with developing players work to his more positive skills.
Of course you could always throw in his stints at Newcastle and Florist to mix things up a bit.
Would like to see Ramsey kept on. See what Penrice can do in the close season; and how the improvements/new players brought in fit with McLarens view of what we need and where.
Stupidly missed that. They've put it in win rate order! That's rather more reassuring.
In the context of what he's had to deal with i.e. FFP, no signings and blooding youngsters I'd say thats a significant improvement.
His win rates at Derby weren't bad and he did well in Holland, a while ago though now.
Personally I’d feel far more optimistic about next season with McLaren over Holloway. Holloway was just about ok with what he had but I don’t feel he ever knew his best team. I’m expecting a fair bit of upheaval before next season - can’t imagine the new man will want to retain Washington based on his stats.
What is worse about those stats in the loss percentage.
50% defeats in Ollie's second spell would have been very worrying to the board.
Admittedly his league record was a tad lower, but would heve been at 50% if Brentford hadn't allowed us to score twice in time added on.
I may be wrong, but I feel that McLaren could be the person to develop Smyth, Eze etc. At least, that is my hope!
I thank Stan for mentioning the Notts County manager as a possible alternative & would add three others - Hurst (Shrewsbury), Tisdale (Exeter) & Crowley (Lincoln) with the Luton man also worth considering.
I gather from Ipswich supporters that Hurst is expected to join them after the play offs & if he is willing to go there, he would certainly be prepared to join us! The financial restraints are worse in Suffolk to West London!
McLaren career management stats:
P 619 W 278 D 147 L194 Win% 44.9
Holloway career management stats:
P 951 W 343 D 246 L 346 Win% 36.1
Looks like a significant upgrade to me, if it happens. Especially in win to loss ratio. The most worrying thing about McLaren is his Newcastle experience, which sounded truly disastrous with open player rebellion.
P 619 W 278 D 147 L194 Win% 44.9
Holloway career management stats:
P 951 W 343 D 246 L 346 Win% 36.1
Looks like a significant upgrade to me, if it happens. Especially in win to loss ratio. The most worrying thing about McLaren is his Newcastle experience, which sounded truly disastrous with open player rebellion.
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I think this may well be one of the reasons they are looking at Steve McClaren - to help develop these players and potentially take them to the next level.
Whilst I wouldn't expect us to be pushing for play offs , I think McClaren's remit must have TOP 10 finish included. If we are replacing the manager then it has to be for an improvement right ?
I don't find it as strange as some that Holloway has gone, I believe the board want someone who has some standing in the football community by that I mean strong connections at a higher level. I think players would be willing to come to QPR on loan from Prem lge teams because of McClaren's rep as a coach. I think
They both seem to lose about 1 in every 3 games.
I’m off down the shops for some fungal toenail syrup. Anybody wanna come?
Holloway loses more games than he wins though.
Given our record with managers there is a huge chance that McLaren, if he comes, will be another **** up. He is certainly a mockable figure and has some worrying black spots on his CV. But the numbers look better than what we have had for the last couple of years, if it’s him let’s give him a chance.
Before we fall on him like a scurry* of rabid Shepherds Bush squirrels.
* the alternative collective noun for squirrels is, apparently, ‘dray’. So I have learned two new words this morning, it’s a good day already. You can also use ‘colony’ which is a bit dull. Why do squirrels need so many alternatives to describe a bunch of them hanging around looking menacing? I would like to see a war between the grey squirrel and urban foxes, in which both sides get wiped out.
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Not only an open player rebellion but an owner in Mike Ashley.
When all said and done, not a bad result, considering.
Again, progress can't just be counted in points.
I'm talking state of squad, attitude, entertainment on pitch, emotional investment of fans, etc.
We ended up in better shape than the early stages of the season. We were technically on the up. Who knows what'll happen now that we're switching for McClaren.
So we're swapping a manager who was (admittedly slowly) making progress or an unknown factor in McClaren.
No, it’s a beaver of fannies.
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