Holloway Gone! Steve McClaren In?

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  1. jeffranger

    jeffranger Well-Known Member

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    We are nowhere near ready for premier yet, so in hindsight they should have let IH see out his last year & groomed youngsters for another season & then bring in an experienced manager & maybe push for play offs the following season.
     
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    Wasn't JFH a "potential" gem, but was found out that he'd beem riding on the coat-tails of Rowetts squad.....another disasterous appointment.
     
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    True. He was also already well known. I'm dreaming of plucking someone from the unknown and giving them a chance. Mad, I know.
     
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    Do we have to wait until Thursday four Ann announcement? Used to always be Thursday.
     
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    Like Graham Potter from Ostersunds, who got them to the knock out stages of the Europa League and only narrowly lost to Arsenal there. Perfect man for a long term project, out of our league now.

    Or Kevin Nolan, who has got Notts County into the play offs on very unpromising material.

    Frankly, I think that anyone who has managed decently at a higher level than we are now and is prepared to settle for what we have to offer with our business model is probably on the way down and desperate for a job. I.e. anyone you have heard of and who has got a ‘track record’ (likely to be out of date). To make it interesting we really should take a punt on a lower league/overseas coach with ideas and a method which gels with the QPR ‘philosophy’ (sniggering permitted). And give him time. And wait for him to be ripped to bits by our caring fan base at the first loss or poor performance, or team selection which isn’t 4-4-2.

    Yeah, not going to happen, is it? Or at least not until we are considerably worse off. So we will get a familiar name who nobody is really enthusiastic about and hope that they can turn back the years and achieve what they did a decade or so ago. Perhaps McLaren will deliver, and last beyond November, and then January, and then May.

    The exception to this rule seems to be Warnock, a feral egoist who appears to be so unconcerned about his personal image that he can be successful in a fashion way past pensionable age. And his piss is pure nectar, or so I’m told.
     
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    Why McClaren? Will Penrice stay at QPR? Some key questions answered
    By David McIntyre 11/05/2018
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    Ian Holloway’s second spell as QPR manager is over after he was dismissed by the club this week ahead of Steve McClaren’s expected appointment.

    With Holloway out and McClaren on the way in, many QPR fans have been raising questions about the new boss and what it could mean for others at Loftus Road.

    Is McClaren definitely taking over?
    As of Friday evening, there was no formal agreement in place yet, but every expectation that McClaren will replace Holloway.

    There are currently no other candidates for the job, although several out-of-work managers have made contact to express a strong interest since the news broke that Holloway was being sacked.

    Other managers were previously sounded out by QPR officials but did not see the job as attractive, largely because of budgetary constraints.

    Whose decision is it to appoint him?
    As with past Rangers appointments, including that of Holloway, this is very much the brainchild of QPR’s owners, who believe they know who the right man is without the need to go through any kind of formal process.

    This has been the case for many of Rangers’ managerial appointments – not just by the current owners, but since Holloway was first given the job, in 2001.

    The exceptions are Jim Magilton, who was among a small number of candidates formally interviewed in 2009, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink – selected by the current owners from a choice of two after an initial hunt by director of football Les Ferdinand and CEO Lee Hoos – and Chris Ramsey, who had been in interim charge.

    Holloway came in the second time around after Rangers were unable to prise Gary Rowett away from Birmingham City.



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    Tony Fernandes has waved goodbye to another manager


    Why McClaren?
    Installing McClaren seems like something QPR’s owners need to get out of their system. He impressed hugely during a short spell on the coaching staff, in 2013, when the then manager Harry Redknapp had a knee replacement and McClaren oversaw pre-season training during a difficult, frankly poisonous, time at the club after relegation from the Premier League.

    Since then there has been a feeling that he could be an ideal Rangers manager, and he has been sounded out about the job previously.

    Another factor is that, for all the former England manager’s ups and downs in the game, his passion is coaching – a field he is very respected in.

    And QPR feel they are primarily looking for a coach who will develop players, given the budgetary constraints and an emphasis on bringing through youngsters.

    Who will be McClaren’s assistant? What about Marc Bircham?
    The Times has reported that former Brentford coach Lee Carsley will be joining McClaren at QPR. At present though, the issue of his backroom team has not been resolved.

    On Friday evening talks were being arranged with Bircham to discuss his future. Co-chairman Tony Fernandes has previously indicated that he wants Bircham to stay at the club long term.

    But the same was true of the likes of Steve Gallen, who left after a managerial change, and to some extent Holloway too before he was axed.

    What about Ramsey?
    Ramsey’s contract expires in November and his long-term future has looked unclear for some time.

    He currently has a mixed role, serving as technical director and head of coaching as well as recently helping out with first-team coaching following the departure of Curtis Fleming to Middlesbrough.

    At present, there is an expectation that Ramsey will continue in that mixed role for the time being at least, but it has not been decided for certain yet.



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    Ramsey is currently expected to stay


    Is Gary Penrice staying?
    Apparently so. While discussions with the likes of Bircham and Ramsey are being arranged, they have already taken place with Penrice, who has indicated that he fully intends to keep working for the club despite his long-standing friendship and working relationship with Holloway.

    Ferdinand was already in the process of trying to recruit Penrice when Holloway’s appointment inevitably moved things along quickly.

    It is worth bearing in mind that Penrice is technically freelance and not formally a QPR staff member, although he is the club’s chief scout in all but name.

    He has been, and seemingly intends to remain, heavily involved in the process of identifying transfers targets for this summer.
     
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    McClaren.
    Oh. Christ. No.
     
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    Having said that, at least we're not being linked with Alan Curbishley.
     
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    If it is to be Maclaren I will hope to see better football and consistency in selection at the very least. Maybe it will be his time to come good in a managerial role.
     
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    There has to be some progress and I don't just mean by 3pts over a season or 5 away wins in 40 odd games. Progress in style, progress in play and progress in selection. Totally agree with you Col.
     
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    Sorry dude<doh>

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    For some reason I’m reminded of a girl I went out with once...
     
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    If she is single and you still have her number then please PM me mate<ok>

    Sorry everyone, back on topic...

    Mclaren anyone?










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    Maybe it will be good to hang on to Birchie for the man management aspect now that Ollie is gone and McClaren doesn't have that natural touch with it.
     
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    Why don't we look at some facts to drive our opinions?

    http://www.managerstats.co.uk/managers/steve-mcclaren/

    Not pretty reading I'm afraid. Unless I am mistaken, the graph looks fairly depressing and poses the question as to why The Board would actually want to appoint a man with that record? With every successive managerial post, without exception, his win rate has got worse.

    Do you think we should print this off and post it snail mail to The Board as part of their 'due diligence'?

    We've seen this so many times with managers and players. Either they or The Board believe it will be better this time at QPR. In this instance, history suggests it will probably not be so.
     
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    Let’s hope SLF doesn’t rekindle his love affair with Tim Sherwood.
     
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    Got no problems with McClsren coming in if he wants it, seems you don’t approve then after digging up that RTID? You could go through a whole list of managers with indifferent stats but doesn’t mean they won’t succeed, probably needless to write or print that.
     
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    Ironically, Ollie's team was improving as time was going by.
     
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