Furious

[Onewaggy]

I was amazed to read a number of posts on here recently; correction. I am fuc***g furious!!!

Not so very long ago, we were struggling to survive as a club. I won't go over the history again - we all know it far too well! Now, I see people are bemoaning the fact that we "only" lasted two rounds of European football; that we have a "boring" season ahead with "only" the prospect of a "top half finish" in the Premier league to look forward to. When will everyone be satisfied?

I started watching Hull City in the mid 1950s. How well I remember those wet Wednesday nights in the East Srand at Boothferry Park, watching my team struggle against the might of teams like Halifax Town and Gateshead. Some nights, it seemed as if there were more players on the pitch than spectators in the stands. The nearest we would ever get to a European trip was a Bank Holiday Monday at Withernsea. The dream of playing against the likes of Manchester United and Chelsea was just that - a dream. If we managed to get into the third round of the F.A. Cup everyone hoped for a plum tie.

Now, I fear, too many supporters are getting too big for their boots. We are only in our fourth season of Premier League football and Steve Bruce is assembling possibly the best team that has ever represented our fair city. Yet, there are those who expect us to run before we can walk. That snotty nosed kid on the East Stand terraces all those years ago dared not dream of where we are today. Last season, we finished 16th. If we manage 15th this season, we have improved. What more can we realistically expect?

Tomorrow, I will be at Villa Park supporting my team with pride. We are a Premier League club! We are Hull!

I started watching City in the mid 60`s and this post sums the current situation up perfectly

 

[Happy Tiger]

John,

Actually no!!

I have just come back from a cruise to Norway and was expecting a few, "well we gave it a go" type posts. I simply feel that this year I have the privilege of being a Hull City supporter. Complaining seems so petty.

On another note, Bergen fish market was a joy.

Ahh love Bergen, very pretty! Is beer still ridiculous in cost?

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

I disagree. Why does everyone **** themselves stupid about transfers? Because there is a chance that we might buy someone who is more skillful than we already have.
More skillful = Better quality of football to watch

Yes most of us would still go if we weren't in the Premier League but all fans crave success (promotion etc) to see their team progress to a higher level.

Winning a cup where the final struggles to get on channel 5 tells you something about the importance of winning that cup.

Many who go now are there to see the big boys. This will soon wear off.

Winning a cup is something we've never done before, to dismiss it as you have stinks of the "too big for their boots" attitude described in the OP.

 

[Chazz Rheinhold]

How many of you who don't care actually bothered making the trips to Slovakia and Belgium, out of curiosity?

Those 'fans' who aren't furious about going out are probably the ones who couldn't or simply couldn't be arsed to make the effort to follow the team.

What would you have said if he'd played the fringe players in the cup final? "At least we played in a cup final, more than we ever did a few years ago".

Dont think anyones said they didnt care. Just the bigger picture. Some fans who went appear to just want a new experience drinking in different pubs. Obviously they look the type too fearful to actually book a flight to a foreign City off their own bat and have a good time.

We put a bloody good side out. At times last season that was the first choice back 5. We had Meyler Jake and Elmo, all first choice and Brady who was before injury. Up front Aluko who was first choice before injury and Sagbo who everyone sadi deserved a chance.

I wanted to progress but one thing i noticed. Meyler and Elmo do more running than anyone. Meyler played the away leg, he came on against Stoke and looked ****ed. Elmo played against Stoke with 10 men and did the least running I've ever seen him do against Lokeren at the KC.

It takes its toll, much as we all think they can play twice a week easy, its not true.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

Many who go now are there to see the big boys. This will soon wear off.

Winning a cup is something we've never done before, to dismiss it as you have stinks of the "too big for their boots" attitude described in the OP.

So what good came of Middlesborough and Fulham reaching the final? Both in the Championship now.
However it did result in both of their Managers going on to manage England on the back of that "success". Maybe Bruce should have picked a different team after all?

 

[Double_Dragon]

Why does our football club even exist if we're just going to throw the ****ing towel in when we achieve the dream of European football?

What are we playing for exactly?

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

So what good came of Middlesborough and Fulham reaching the final? Both in the Championship now.
However it did result in both of their Managers going on to manage England on the back of that "success". Maybe Bruce should have picked a different team after all?

Is that relevant? I'll raise you Athletico Madrid, Chelsea & Porto.

On a serious note, I'd be happy to be in the Championship if it meant we'd won a European Trophy.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Dont think anyones said they didnt care. Just the bigger picture. Some fans who went appear to just want a new experience drinking in different pubs. Obviously they look the type too fearful to actually book a flight to a foreign City off their own bat and have a good time.

We put a bloody good side out. At times last season that was the first choice back 5. We had Meyler Jake and Elmo, all first choice and Brady who was before injury. Up front Aluko who was first choice before injury and Sagbo who everyone sadi deserved a chance.

I wanted to progress but one thing i noticed. Meyler and Elmo do more running than anyone. Meyler played the away leg, he came on against Stoke and looked ****ed. Elmo played against Stoke with 10 men and did the least running I've ever seen him do against Lokeren at the KC.

It takes its toll, much as we all think they can play twice a week easy, its not true.

The OP has, in fact he said he'd be happy if Lokeren leathered us.

EDIT: for correction, he actually said he "wouldn't care" but it reads like he'd be happy.

 

[Amin Arrears]

I disagree. Why does everyone **** themselves stupid about transfers? Because there is a chance that we might buy someone who is more skillful than we already have.
More skillful = Better quality of football to watch

Yes most of us would still go if we weren't in the Premier League but all fans crave success (promotion etc) to see their team progress to a higher level.

Winning a cup where the final struggles to get on channel 5 tells you something about the importance of winning that cup.

You've contradicted yourself dipshit.

Winning a cup where the prize is equal to finishing in the top 4 tells you something about the importance of that cup. So by your reckoning there's no point being in the PL unless you're looking at winning it.

Great, let's get ourselves back to the championship then. In fact the lower the league the better, higher chance of winning a trophy.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

Why does our football club even exist if we're just going to throw the ****ing towel in when we achieve the dream of European football?

What are we playing for exactly?

Many of those players we put out have international caps. I doubt (but can't be arsed to check) that the same can be said of their team.
They should have been capable of winning. Who's to say our "first team" wouldn't also have lost because they were still ****ed from playing in the Stoke game.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

You've contradicted yourself dipshit.

Winning a cup where the prize is equal to finishing in the top 4 tells you something about the importance of that cup. So by your reckoning there's no point being in the PL unless you're looking at winning it.

Great, let's get ourselves back to the championship then. In fact the lower the league the better, higher chance of winning a trophy.

Actually getting relegated is more Bens argument, not mine.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Many of those players we put out have international caps. I doubt (but can't be arsed to check) that the same can be said of their team.
They should have been capable of winning. Who's to say our "first team" wouldn't also have lost because they were still ****ed from playing in the Stoke game.

Who's to say we wouldn't stay up if we'd of progressed?

 

[Amin Arrears]

Why does our football club even exist if we're just going to throw the ****ing towel in when we achieve the dream of European football?

What are we playing for exactly?

It's not about hull city, it's about seeing Stevie G, Rooney, Lamps & co live on our doorstep.

 

[Sir Cheshire Ben]

Actually getting relegated is more Bens argument, not mine.

I don't understand this.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

Who's to say we wouldn't stay up if we'd of progressed?

I never said we would have lost of Premiership status had we progressed to the Group stages but Bruce would have still used the squad rotation for those group games.
For me, it had nothing to do with the quality of the players that Bruce put out. More to do with the fact that most of that team do not play regularly together in the same side. Maybe that understanding would have improved had that team progressed and played more regularly together but we'll never know.

 

[Jeff Lynnes PBCW™]

It's not about hull city, it's about seeing Stevie G, Rooney, Lamps & co live on our doorstep.

It's about seeing your team win Stevie G's team 3-1, or seeing your team winning Rooney's team 2-0 after 20 minutes because you never thought your team would be able to compete at this level and then been able to laugh at the c**ts who have lived in Hull all their lives but turn up at McDonalds in their Liverppol FC trackie top.

 

[FILEYseadog]

Go all out to win the league cup Mr Bruce .

Especially as no one else seems to take it serious.

I want to see us WIN something before I kick the bucket.

 

[FILEYseadog]

So what good came of Middlesborough and Fulham reaching the final? Both in the Championship now.
However it did result in both of their Managers going on to manage England on the back of that "success". Maybe Bruce should have picked a different team after all?

Is that relevant? I'll raise you Athletico Madrid, Chelsea & Porto.

On a serious note, I'd be happy to be in the Championship if it meant we'd won a European Trophy.

Agreed 100%

 

[The Omega Man]

I went to Belgium and sort of wanted more of it but could not be anymore than mildly fed up with not progressing.

My view, for what it is worth, is that to complain that we are not the FA cup holders and are no longer in the Europa League, is failing to accept that all of this is a side show to the big event. The Premier League.

 

[Fez]

I would suffer the consequences of relegation to protect our great club's heritage, but I would protect league status against any transient cup progression - these early season PL games are hugely important for us. We build the foundations and then we look to build a tower of achievement; if all of this comes tumbling down the feeling, after all that everyone has put in, would be terrible.