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The ****ing evidence is there man. You won’t criticise him, but claim “if any interested parties exist”, yet he himself has said there were 5 just a couple of weeks ago. I remember you on the SMB saying the same time and time again, it’s not worth conversing with you because you completely ignore the points put in front of you. If you cared to read my post, you claimed he would sell for a profit, businessman won’t want to pay a profit because he hasn’t done anything to deserve it, ergo he is asking too much as far as they are concerned. You won’t have a go at a bloke who introduced new owners to the staff, cannot sell the club despite having 5 interested parties and had two failed takeovers last year. The whole board is made up of guesswork man, no one will know all of the facts, but some are bright enough to read between the lines. Others, well they bury their head and cover themselves in tinfoil. If all we had to talk about was facts, it would be a pretty **** message board. Most people can make reasoned judgment on the evidence put in front of them, even a civil court works on the balance of probability. Which in this case is stacked heavily against Stewart Donald.

Picking the old madness baton back up there then. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
 
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With our wage bill Donald will be hit by the suspension of games.

If he uses the 'loan' for ongoing running costs, and can't repay, we'll have new owners by default.
It could also lead to an acceleration of a deal. I was reading about the Premier League TV companies not paying out due to the Premier League games not going ahead. Withholding payments or litigation leading to payments being withheld could see many of the top tier clubs struggling or doing a Bury. Accelerating a takeover and investing to get to the gravy train of Premier League money (with the benefit of hindsight a good act of a God insurance policyholders in place) may now be an option?
 
Will be interesting to see how this all pans out. In theory, plenty of time now for work behind the scenes but these lock downs will prevent travel and interested parties coming to view the stadium etc.

My gut feeling is this season will be written off and we’ll go again from August.
 
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Will be interesting to see how this all pans out. In theory, plenty of time now for work behind the scenes but these lock downs will prevent travel and interested parties coming to view the stadium etc.

My gut feeling is this season will be written off and we’ll go again from August.

It's not what people want to hear but it's the only option.

If there were 3 or 4 games left we could suspend the season and play on.

But some teams have a dozen games left, with the cups, which can't be squeezed in.

Allowing this season to disrupt next season is foolhardy, it just means prolonging the damage.

Everyone will just have to accept that this season can't be completed and plan for August.

That gives everyone time to evaluate their position and bunker down as best they can.

The problem is that too many clubs have spent beyond their means, relied on TV cash and only just kept the bailiffs from the door ...

... now the big white van has pulled up and two big blokes are getting out with crow bars.

Clubs have endlessly gambled with their futures, but the future has just arrived and there will be casualties.
 
It's not what people want to hear but it's the only option.

If there were 3 or 4 games left we could suspend the season and play on.

But some teams have a dozen games left, with the cups, which can't be squeezed in.

Allowing this season to disrupt next season is foolhardy, it just means prolonging the damage.

Everyone will just have to accept that this season can't be completed and plan for August.

That gives everyone time to evaluate their position and bunker down as best they can.

The problem is that too many clubs have spent beyond their means, relied on TV cash and only just kept the bailiffs from the door ...

... now the big white van has pulled up and two big blokes are getting out with crow bars.

Clubs have endlessly gambled with their futures, but the future has just arrived and there will be casualties.
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This is potentially what English football has needed for a long time tbh. A nice reset of the top tiers, and maybe bringing about a more level playing field again would be nice. Chances of it happening though... I won't hold my breath lol
 
It's not what people want to hear but it's the only option.

If there were 3 or 4 games left we could suspend the season and play on.

But some teams have a dozen games left, with the cups, which can't be squeezed in.

Allowing this season to disrupt next season is foolhardy, it just means prolonging the damage.

Everyone will just have to accept that this season can't be completed and plan for August.

That gives everyone time to evaluate their position and bunker down as best they can.

The problem is that too many clubs have spent beyond their means, relied on TV cash and only just kept the bailiffs from the door ...

... now the big white van has pulled up and two big blokes are getting out with crow bars.

Clubs have endlessly gambled with their futures, but the future has just arrived and there will be casualties.


i think this statement is the most sensible one i've read in a long time.
 
This is potentially what English football has needed for a long time tbh. A nice reset of the top tiers, and maybe bringing about a more level playing field again would be nice. Chances of it happening though... I won't hold my breath lol[/QUOTE]

Thing is, that's what FFP was supposedly brought in for. Pity was it around 10 years too late and Europe's big boys had a strangle hold on their own leagues so no one could gatecrash the party.
 
Thing is, that's what FFP was supposedly brought in for. Pity was it around 10 years too late and Europe's big boys had a strangle hold on their own leagues so no one could gatecrash the party.

FFP is the most ironic, and misleading, name since the Americans came up with 'The World Series'.

There's nothing fair about football at the top level in Europe.

In the PL we've sold the game to foreign banks and brought in foreign players to hand over 80% of the income.

When merchandising sales to a minor African country, by Man City or Liverpool, eclipse the gate money at Burnley you know we've reached the point of no return.
 
With our wage bill Donald will be hit by the suspension of games.

If he uses the 'loan' for ongoing running costs, and can't repay, we'll have new owners by default.

Well the parachute payments will run out now and Donald will have to fund the club out of his own pocket or get his mate Juan to. You know the 'Juan' who was going to be seen more actively around the club. The other option is using the Americans loan which he said he would pay back if he sold the club but I would imagine nobody would want to buy a football club with all the uncertainty at the moment. Once again delaying it until the summer has backfired on his plans imo. The gamble may not have paid off for him after all. I hope it ends up with FPP.
 
Well the parachute payments will run out now and Donald will have to fund the club out of his own pocket or get his mate Juan to. You know the 'Juan' who was going to be seen more actively around the club. The other option is using the Americans loan which he said he would pay back if he sold the club but I would imagine nobody would want to buy a football club with all the uncertainty at the moment. Once again delaying it until the summer has backfired on his plans imo. The gamble may not have paid off for him after all. I hope it ends up with FPP.

Spot on post mate.

This shutdown will flush out a fair few hidden issues at clubs.

Sartori was introduced simply to persuade Short that Donald was well connected/backed.

He's now staring down the barrel of a loaded shotgun and has no one to blame but himself.

The Americans would've taken over the club if he hadn't moved the goalposts, and we'd now be cocooned in a warm nest of endless dollars.

Because of that I have no sympathy for Donald ...

... I just hope he doesn't drag us down with him.

Fortunately he's now in a position whereby he's balancing the money he'll lose by keeping us against the money he'll lose by selling us.

If he leaves it too long the buyers will reach a point when they know the club is theirs but they can keep squeezing Donald ad infinitum.

If he tries to tough it out they'll get the club for the value of the 'loan'.
 
I can tell you now that it won't lead to an acceleration of any deal. I've been second-hand privy to two deals falling through in the sports sector in the last few days. People are not going to invest in anything right now, particularly when nobody can say when they'll be able to make money via gate receipts and foot-fall related sales.

Basically, there's no way around this from a deal perspective. You can't value it the same as you did a month ago, let alone argue on differences in projection. Might as well forget about anything meaningful happening for at least 3 months unless something was signed before now.
 
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Oh, and I think 3 months is optimistic - I'd be cautious that FPP wouldn't want to inherit us at this point, given that our matchday revenue is at risk until we can guarantee no more stoppages for extended periods, and a vaccine appears at least 12-18 months away.

I could well envision a scenario where we end up with Donald trying to get rid of us and cut his losses, and nobody willing to take us. That's how bad this is. It's a complete disaster for this process.
 
I can tell you now that it won't lead to an acceleration of any deal. I've been second-hand privy to two deals falling through in the sports sector in the last few days. People are not going to invest in anything right now, particularly when nobody can say when they'll be able to make money via gate receipts and foot-fall related sales.

Basically, there's no way around this from a deal perspective. You can't value it the same as you did a month ago, let alone argue on differences in projection. Might as well forget about anything meaningful happening for at least 3 months unless something was signed before now.

If Donald informs the 'lenders' that he can't pay/won't pay, it's a done deal ...

... that's already agreed.