I am leaving it. As his own friend said, sometimes he just won't let things go. In this case hes adamant about it so what's the point? He's just adamant that his ambiguous narrative of events is more relevant than someone else's ambiguous narrative, so that's that. It's just painful to watch people go along with it as if it's been proved right instead of absolutely wrong.
My post #2887, which is now purposely blank, originally contained somewhat similar to what @ISOE II has said. But I'm not getting involved in the protracted argument bollocks that goes on, both here and on the other site. All I will say, is something MUST have changed following that match in question.
@Kittenmittons I think both of you have fair points. A lot doesn't stack up about the deal, which invites people to speculate as to why. I'm not sure we will ever hear the exact truth, unless the Americans take over, which seems increasingly unlikely. But of course, that's just my personal guesswork.
As long as that loan is left out standing then I'd say it's fair to suggest that the Americans have an interest in us. After all 10 million is still a lot of money to anyone even billionaires. What that interest consists of is anyone's guess. There's too many whispers coming out to say to say it never happened tho.
The only thing that matters is wether or not they actually take over. All I have read on here is guesswork and speculation which is fine but when that guesswork and speculation is attempted to be posted as fact that’s when it becomes tiresome. The mags are on the cusp of what seems an exciting new dawn whilst we are stuck with a man who’s heart seems to be in right place but without the clout to make it count. Never has the gap between us and Newcastle been so big and it’s extremely depressing. Our fans deserve more.
Aye mate, but it wouldn’t be a discussion if you weren’t doing the same. My mates would probably say the same about me, as a matter of fact I argue for a ****ing living. Now in my case, what people need to understand is that it is open to interpretation and different opinions will read it differently, but ultimately one side will get their way. Just my opinion, but I think he is basing his “ambiguous narrative” on things he has saw, where others haven’t. A bit like me spotting a clause in the contract, which others were unaware of, giving weight to my argument
It's always your last resort when you're struggling. When all endless posts, misquotes and speculation fails ... ... out come the smilies. Just stop continually misquoting me, and telling me what I think, what Donald & FPP think, and it'll be fine.
I always respond in kind. As soon as you start to portray me as a fantasist, imply I'm lying or obstinate and unable to understand things ... ... you'll get it back with both barrels. And that's something you can't handle. You've said previously that you'd stop that but you just can't stop jumping in when I'm talking to other people's. Give it a rest.
I think you’ve now posted what Smug was saying you should post that both sides have a narrative and neither can be seen as fact until the facts come out. I don’t think either narrative is ambiguous mind but neither can either one be substantiated at this time. What I will say - and you either take me at my word or I am a liar - is that I have had conversations related to me by separate people who were in the box next to FPP “at that game” that add credence to Smug’s post. Their very attendance backs up what Smug said whether it was a takeover or a loan. I go with the former. They were here to do a deal. I wish I had gone in the box that day now and we could have this conjecture first hand. I therefore believe we should focus on what could happen next - this thread over the last few days has given me hope again - if it’s FPP great. If not it will be someone else, but let’s stay positive.
We're in SW France mate and really isolated, the nearest habitation is a mile away and the whole area is very rural.
Well said mate. As you say there's plenty of evidence that FPP did want to takeover ... ... simply ignoring it, or dismissing it, doesn't make a great basis for an argument. I was shown personal messages, from one of FPP, talking about their plans for the club. I can't 'unsee' any of that or be persuaded I was fantasising or misinterpreting it. Nor can your friends 'unhear' what they heard or be dismissed as naive or unable to understand what was said to them. It's as if we're a just daft little people who get a pat on the head, and a patronising roll of the eyes, from Mr Businessman and his ability to know what everyone thinks better than they do. I find it all quite arrogant, personal and condescending tbh.
The thing is my friends are actually coworkers who WE all have to trust with a very important government contract on a day to day basis. They have to be trustworthy for a living. As MLFs they were very excited by what they saw and heard. What I haven’t posted thus far - and I will now - is the conversations they had. These billionaires really interacted at a human level. They wanted to know about the team, players, how formations worked as they were open about not having a great knowledge of football. Bar going inside to sign some documents at half time. They spent a great deal of time interacting with my coworkers. This deal (takeover is what my coworkers said) could have been a loan at that point, was (by the sounds of it) getting done and dusted that day. Why else would they be there? Got on a plane and flew 3000 miles for an afternoon in Suddick watching our ****e attempting to play football?
I didn't say you were lying though. I even said that you passed the info on in good faith. I deliberately made sure of all that. What annoyed me yesterday was when on friday you 'turned' and made out that I was less of a fan because I don't believe FPP are looking to buy a majority stake right now, or don't believe that they ever tried to before doing the loan to buy. That's the thing mate, I don't disagree with any of this. They have an interest in us, they probably do hope they one day buy us because we're doing well. All of that is exactly what I'm saying, in fact it's also what you're saying when you talk about the loan. I'm not disagreeing with any of that. I'm saying that there a bunch of people blaming Donald for not selling to them, when it's definitely possible, if not probable, that he was telling the truth when he said they hadn't made a bid to take a majority shareholding rather than a convertible loan.
I’m not in any way itk, but it seems highly likely to me that FPP did a deal with SD to buy the club, dependent on promotion, which was expected by everyone at that time. As we know, it didn’t happen, which meant that the conditions of the deal couldn’t be met for at least another year,so the Americans agreed to make a sum of money available, which would guarantee funds to try to ensure that there was a minimum of only a one year delay. These funds would form part of the eventual settlement as and when. It’s the only thing that makes sense, particularly given what Smug,ISOE 11 and others have said consistently. I believe that they’re passing on genuine info. as it has appeared to them, and, as I’ve not heard a convincing alternative from a single soul, on here or elsewhere, I fail to see the need for the constant sniping.
