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brownbagtiger said:
Do you really think the best person to explain to kids about tampons is a man in drag (who will never use them in their intended way), dressed as if he’s covered in blood? In what way does that help young women overcome the embarrassment and shame they feel over a normal bodily function? Hint, it’s because periods start with puberty and are associated with all the bodily changes and growing awareness of sexuality. Plus it’s messy, painful and involves interacting with private parts in “public” places like school toilets, rather than at home. There’s already a problem with teenage girls skipping school every month because of embarrassment over periods, so yeah, lets teach young boys that it’s a fun thing and they can take the piss and chuck tampons at girls on the rag.

in other words Syd, misogyny.
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Is the man in drag explaining what tampons are, or just throwing them into the crowd? I didn't think they were providing an instructional video with the items being thrown but maybe I wasn't looking closely enough.

Regardless, as others have pointed out this was an isolated incident that seems to be fixated on as a bit of confirmation bias.
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
Is the man in drag explaining what tampons are, or just throwing them into the crowd? I didn't think they were providing an instructional video with the items being thrown but maybe I wasn't looking closely enough.

Regardless, as others have pointed out this was an isolated incident that seems to be fixated on as a bit of confirmation bias.[

Of course, sensible idea. Because it would make so much more sense to explain to the 3-5 year olds what tampons are for. FFS- listen to yourself.
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SydneyTiger14 said:
That's a pretty disappointing attitude. I would hate to think my daughter felt embarrassed or unable to broach a topic with me about her body because I've previously expressed horror or disgust at a bodily function. Each to their own though I suppose.
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Who's expressed horror or disgust at a bodily function?

My Daughter's never felt the need to discuss such things with me,their Mother dealt with that.Lads problems,I dealt with,it was the same when I was brought up and I was perfectly at ease with my upbringing.

Each to their own...Nail firmly hit on head.
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
Who's expressed horror or disgust at a bodily function?

My Daughter's never felt the need to discuss such things with me,their Mother dealt with that.Lads problems,I dealt with,it was the same when I was brought up and I was perfectly at ease with my upbringing.

Each to their own...Nail firmly hit on head.
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I'd hope children are comfortable discussing anything with either parent but maybe I'm one out on that one.
 
DMD said:
Cis is an awful, unnecessary term.

It's interesting to observe people try to defend its use, while at the same time claiming people's rights to self determined pronouns.
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It isn’t a pronoun. It’s a Latin prefix, I don’t see it as awful but I’ll respect your feelings about it and not use it.

I know recently opinions have shifted on it because Elon Musk declared it a slur (shame nobody who matters gives a flying **** what he thinks) and it has begun to be seen as divisive within the community, because it suggests that LGB people don’t struggle with gender identity, which is of course untrue. However, it is still widely used in academia and the scientific community because it stands in contrast to the prefix trans-, which means “the other side”, which I can see as divisive but also kind of ironic when said by certain people I know on social media, given their views on trans people.
 
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Ric Glasgow said:
In the same way as you obviously find it appropriate?

Question...Do you have children or Grand-Children of that age?

I'm asking that because I'm heavily involved in their (my Grand-Kids)upbringing,obviously to assist their parents in their working lives and I've got a reasonable idea of what stimulates them in terms of education and play.

Talking,or broaching the subject of things that will happen in later life ie periods is off the list.Full Stop.
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This year, as part of the government’s curriculum, I taught primary school children about periods (boys and girls). I also had to show them drawings of reproductive organs, discuss the changes one goes through in puberty and what those changes can look and feel like.

At no point were there any complaints, there were no parents kicking off, no children crying.

Now, a drag artist doing a performance based around periods probably isn’t the best medium to deliver such information, it certainly wouldn’t be my first choice.
That being said, at a show that celebrates freedom of sexuality, it is the responsibility of the parents to ensure they know what they are taking their children to. The performer has their act. If I took my little girl to a comedy festival and Frankie Boyle was performing, I wouldn’t expect him to spot my little one and change his act. It’s on me and if I think it’s inappropriate, I won’t take them. So either the parents deemed it fine, or they didn’t look up who was performing.

The angle of the film in question is pointing at the stage, but if you look at the photos from that pride, there are hundreds of people watching behind the camera. That’s who they are performing to, not four children. Now answer this. Why is somebody framing it like that isn’t the case, and do you think maybe somebody is trying to make a point? Because drag artists are coming under a lot of undue scrutiny in America and we just tend to copy them.
 
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dennisboothstash said:
Completely agree John.
And Henderson is worse because he was so far the other way in being overtly supportive of the gay community.
You could argue Lineker was just doing what his job expected, but Henderson has made a conscious choice that makes his previous stance look disingenuous
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The reason I mentioned Lineker, he seems to have a very opinionated view on a number of things as long as he is not affected by them. Sometimes he needs to put his money where is mouth is.
 
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askewshair said:
Yeah, a lot of the equestrian sports have men and women competing as equal. Which surprises me, as I’d have thought they need a lot of strength to compete at the very top in those sports.
As well as the physical differences, I also wonder how much is cultural, for instance many more men generally compete in sport and the larger the base of the pyramid, usually the better the elite. As the number of women playing sport grows, we may see some narrowing of the difference?
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Having done a bit of show jumping in my time, to be fair the reason men and women can compete in Equestrian event is because the horse does most of the work.
Women are generally lighter, and even though the men are stronger they are heavier, so it sort of evens its self out. Though, the strength to ride a horse in not that significant between Male and Female.
 
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Steven Toast said:
It isn’t a pronoun. It’s a Latin prefix, I don’t see it as awful but I’ll respect your feelings about it and not use it.

I know recently opinions have shifted on it because Elon Musk declared it a slur (shame nobody who matters gives a flying **** what he thinks) and it has begun to be seen as divisive within the community, because it suggests that LGB people don’t struggle with gender identity, which is of course untrue. However, it is still widely used in academia and the scientific community because it stands in contrast to the prefix trans-, which means “the other side”, which I can see as divisive but also kind of ironic when said by certain people I know on social media, given their views on trans people.
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It's more about facts than feelings, I thought you'd try to latch on to the grammar aspect, but your attempt at a lesson in English is simply a diversion away from the issue, as the use of pronouns is an absolute mess, and has no meaningful link to scientific facts anyway.

It's no good claiming to respect the fact that people don't like it and then trying to justify it's use, or trying to claim some nonsense about it being down to Musk. You mentioning that indicates you know that people find it objectionable, yet you still chose to use it. The blame sits squarely with the hypocrites who try to sneak it in in the hope it becomes legitimate,

It isn't used much in credible scientific circles, as it's pretty much a term created by a movement started by people with extremely dubious sexual preferences designed to legitimise their claims. Until relatively recently, gender was more a term for inanimate objects.

As I said earlier, I don't care how others choose to live, and I actually like to see people being individuals and characters and being free to choose, but as also mentioned, I'm not alone in believing that the current trend is a fashion doing more harm than good, as it's been hijacked by people with other agendas. That is a view shared by people I know that are long term cross dressers and gays who say it's making their life harder, and the push back is not usually from straight people.

I mentioned earlier the fights I saw in town, and they were alphabet people disagreeing with other alphabet peoples views.

If they can't understand the gay b c's, then it's understandable that others don't either, but at least the straight people seem to be far more tolerant.
 
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