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As somebody who is politically to the left I can’t stand virtue signalling hypocrites.
One of the biggest is the champagne socialist Gary Neville.

Regards to Pride it must be nice to able to express yourself freelyand show affection to the person you love without the possibility of getting your head kicked in so good luck to them.

 

Yeah, a lot of the equestrian sports have men and women competing as equal. Which surprises me, as I’d have thought they need a lot of strength to compete at the very top in those sports.
As well as the physical differences, I also wonder how much is cultural, for instance many more men generally compete in sport and the larger the base of the pyramid, usually the better the elite. As the number of women playing sport grows, we may see some narrowing of the difference?

 

Are you sure about that? Two of the medal winners were Russians who got caught doping. I remember one, the south African, but she was/is intersex ie not born a biological male nor a biological female. I think she is a different category from a transexual.

 

Completely agree John.
And Henderson is worse because he was so far the other way in being overtly supportive of the gay community.
You could argue Lineker was just doing what his job expected, but Henderson has made a conscious choice that makes his previous stance look disingenuous

 

There certainly might be a narrowing of difference at a social or amateur level, which will be more fun for all of us.

But the difference between Elite men and Elite women is huge, and relatively far larger. If the debatable women's 100m record is ignored, there's a full second difference between the two sexes - this is an enormous difference in this specialised race.

Similar differences are shown in strength - the heaviest ever woman's deadlift, can be matched by any male club level powerlifter.

The newer synthetic performance enhancers hitting the markets from China, work far better and effectively in a man's metabolism and so this will further the difference over the next decade.

 

At least one of these “men” has managed to give birth? Good effort.

 

Hands up, quoted the wrong games. It was Brazil 2016.

 

I would argue that under a level playing field, if the gap is closing at amateur level, that is because more women are involved and so the gap at elite level would reduce, though because of males greater strength will never catch up.
Sounds like the synthetic performance enhancers will probably halt that narrowing. Are these legal?

Btw I learnt tonight that women ultra marathon runners compete equally with men.

 

Jackie Wilson, who knew?


The views expressed in my posts are not necessarily mine.

 

And I think this is sorta what
Gone for
Was getting at
About keeping politics or virtue signalling out of football
Just play sport and keep Schtum about life
In general

 

Ah, I understand. Again, it's my understanding that these athletes were born intersex, not biological males. Not sure a congenital condition is the same as

Everything is legal until it's not the newer synthetic performance enhancers work far better, and healthier without the side effects, as they can be cycled more efficiently, so the effect hits it's peak around competition time and then doesn't show up in the urine tests. There's also newer drugs that can immediately and temporarily reduce suspiciously high testosterone levels immediately after competition.

Generally, performance enhancers work more efficiently with men, as the better ones are testosterone-functioning and so androgenic ie women don't want to take these types as they go bald and permanently damage their voices. Hence why so many female athletes get caught doping... Because they take Anavar, which is purely anabolic, not androgenic, but shows up easily in the testing. The science favours men and so at the higher level, there will be an increase in difference over the next decade.

It's unlikely that there's a top end athlete that's not 'gaming' the system in some way - it's such a fractional business that all will do what they can to take advantage. They're genetic freaks as it stands and so the extra help is to fine tune them above the select few in their category.

 

intersex is no longer considered the correct term, it’s now Disorders of Sexual Development, of which there are many types. The medalists at the 2016 games all had the same type of DSD - a disorder of an XY type. Ie they are men but their external genitalia were ambiguous at birth and so, at least in Caster Semenya’s case, they are legally female as that’s what’s on their birth certificate. They still went through male puberty and had male development in terms of strength, bone density and lung capacity.

 

Wonder why that would manifest (no 80’s pun intended) in the 800 m specifically?

 

Good post. Like you, I'm happy for people to live how they choose, as long as they're not hurting anyone, and also like you, I know a fair few gay people that will have little if anything to do with Pride as they feel it has been hijacked and works against them.

I was in town on Saturday, and saw a few bits of violence, which was ironically different members of the pride community against each other.

The queue for taxis was longer than normal, and the driver I got said that it's because a fair few other drivers did not turn out on Pride event nights due to the trouble from those involved, and he was clear that it wasn't straight people picking on gays, but in fighting among the different factions.

 

Nah
Football has been great for improving inclusivity
We shouldn’t shy away from how powerful that is just because some players appear hypocritical

 

No doubt in my mind that in horse-racing the top women jockeys are equal to their male counterparts.Rachel Blackmore and Holly Doyle(for example but not limited to)have proved on numerous occasions that they are as strong in a finish as the top name male jockeys...

 

Are you still saying nothing inappropriate is happening in the Uk in the LGBT scene ?

 

It’s interesting isn’t it? I presume it’s something like the body types of people (muscle mass, build) with this type of DSD are particularly suited to middle distance running.

 

He didn’t say that though did he?
He said that at no point had trans people gone into schools and done sexual dances.

 

Could you explain what's inappropriate about that? Or is learning about your biology before a certain age 'inappropriate'?