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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Kittenmittons, Oct 29, 2019.

  1. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    Sorry WHAT? I have said specifically that I think they are the result of FPP? Stop being a prat.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

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    I'm speaking generally, from your last month's postings ...

    ... no need to be offensive, you need to calm down.
     
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  3. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    If you won't actually read the specific point I make that FPP likely pushed this, and Charlie has acknowledged that the payments were made recently, there is no answer except you're being wilfully ignorant and are on a wind up.
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's words like this that dilute your argument tbh, it's guesswork dressed up as facts.

    You've no idea when the recent payments were planned, neither have I.
     
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  5. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    No, it's me not being definitive because a group of people on here are so literal minded that they take any unequivocal statement as something that requires factual evidence that they know is impossible here. That is why I state that we don't know, but I'm offering an opinion and that's why I said, in the second sentence of the post last night, that we don't know anything 100%.
     
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    I'll have another listen, was after my train journey last night so possibly misheard or misunderstood. He has gone into far more detail than before, and it's a lot to take in :D
     
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    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    @HeatonMackem 1:13:36 on this, what do you reckon when you get a chance? https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p07r0xht

    This was the bit that caught my attention, because one of the entities owed money by Madrox in the summer was SAFC, and I thought it was interesting that he doesn't class SAFC as among the creditors.
     
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    So he missed SAFC when he listed the creditors. I think you're reading too much into that. I would say that was just an incomplete listing. Given the context, he probably missed saying SAFC because he wouldn't SAFC's permission to sell the club to an investor, whereas he would need permission from FPP, Juan, CM and himself.

    From 1:18:40 he has spent over £20m of his own money so far, £15m last year, and the other £5m over time since then. Also, 1:21 "Madrox has that commitment" (to put the remaining amount owed back into the club).
     
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    And there's your answer, a statement absolutely requires factual evidence ....

    .... otherwise it's guesswork.
     
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    Which is why I didn't make one, and I caveated my statement by saying that we couldn't know, but there were reasons to suggest something has changed.

    Why are you being difficult? I've tried to be fair, honest and unbiased. I've come in here and said 'fair play to Donald if this is true' and you are haranguing me about semantics?
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    It's not a statement.

    It's an opinion based on a few facts and lots of assumptions.

    That's my problem with what you're saying.
     
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  12. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    So you're arguing semantics. Yes, it's an opinion, but when I say statement, I mean quite literally, what I am stating. You can make a statement without facts.

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    If you want to argue for no reason except semantics, at least get it right... I have no beef with anyone and I don't see the point of what you're doing here.
     
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    You’ve no beef with anyone? Anyone except the owners and anyone who disagrees with your suppositions which you dress up as considered opinions which are no more than ramblings based on, probably, hormone deficiency or jealousy.
     
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    I have beef against the owners do I? You mean like how I praised them last night for doing the right thing and getting this deal which is good for the club? Mug. You're the one who was saying you wanted them out of the club you hypocrite.

    Funny how me and heaton can disagree but have a conversation, and some troll like you who just comes in on a wind up to snipe and bitch like a child doesn't get much shrift from people, eh?
     
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    I have a feeling we have nothing to worry about and will end up in the right hands just it may be more of a bumpy ride yet
     
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    I see the cold wet weather has brought the handbags out...
     
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  17. Roppa

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    Now now, temper temper km, don’t get lifetime ban on here as well. Suppose u can always come back as jvokes or Chris or somebody else to spout your nonsense.
     
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    So it appears out of nowhere as well... we've had good news be happy lads!
     
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  19. Kittenmittons

    Kittenmittons Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, you're a troll and hypocrite. You add nothing to any conversation. Derail every thread with personal insults.

    Dare you to read Chris's twitter, doesn't seem like we agree on this does it? You ever going to take back your insistence that I'm him? Didn't think so. Troll.
     
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    How old are you? Bizarre patter :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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