Ferrari: Team Thread

Can they?

 

Okay then... How about "not going to make things much worse"?

 

Easy, just do nothing

 

Pit Wall: Box Box, Box Box...

Charles: Why?

Pit Wall: We put you in the wrong car, Your currently in a Jordan EJ15

Charles: Guys how did we get this wrong?

Pit Wall: We dont know... we will review and get back to you.

 

And Chelsea managers get sacked for actually winning things

 

The Ferrari strat team has officially been demoted to livery.

 

Like the rear wing but the engine cover is cheap...

 

I quite like it .

 

Either go full yellow, or leave that beautiful livery alone.

Don't mind Ferrari across the rear wing, though.

 

Trouble is no one will see it unless they are overtaking/lapping

 

Quite funny DH CANARY. Liked this

 

Rumours of a c.30HP increase for Ferrari PU by getting on top of their reliability issues. Christian Horner notes that potential and talks about the well known secret that Ferrari tuned the engine down after the Barcelona and Baku failures- which is a big reason why they fell away from challenging Red Bull.

Horner Interview:

Christian Horner expects Ferrari will field a more powerful Formula 1 car in 2023.

Last year, the Maranello team's initial challenge to Horner-led Red Bull ultimately petered out - but reports from Italy suggest the Ferrari power unit will be 30 horsepower better this season.

The same reports suggest Ferrari's chassis will also be considerably lighter in 2023.

"In theory," Red Bull boss Horner told Auto Motor und Sport, "nobody can gain a lot of horsepower anymore.

"But Ferrari obviously had reliability problems last season. If they have fixed those problems, they can get more out of the same engine this year. That will inevitably lead to progress at Ferrari."

At the same time, Red Bull's engine - the Honda-based 'Red Bull Powertrains' unit - powered Max Verstappen to a dominant title win in 2022.

"I think Ferrari has a lot more margin so we have to take that into account," Horner said. "We all saw how they really scaled the engine back last year after their reliability issues.

"We only had minor reliability problems last year - certainly not to the extent of Ferrari."

 

I do think it's funny that Horner calls the PU the Honda based Red Bull Powertrains PU! If it is just based on the Honda PU then how can Horner then claim that Red Bull Powertrains is a NEW PU manufacturer for 2026?
As far as I have read the PU is all Honda apart from Red Bull assembling the battery pack - but I guess that's designed by Honda just Red Bull make the pack up to fit in with their chassis design.

 

it was designed by Honda. he has to call the 2022 car Honda as they were still involved.

the IP has been sold to red bull and red bull will actually manufacture the engines in their new facility.

simple really, by 2026 they will be making entire engines so wherever the original source they will be an engine manufacturer and should be expected to be evolving their design between now and then.

I mean, haas basically bought ferrari design for their debut cars. they were still called an f1 team and not ferrari b.

 

I think in the end Red Bull didn't buy Honda's IP as Honda decided to keep going as their was an engine freeze apart from reliability.
Red Bull Powertrains have registered with FIA as a New PU supplier same as Audi for 2026. This means they are allowed to spend on development more than existing PU suppliers. Although I think FIA has decided they are allowed as a New PU supplier but with a reduced budget allowance to compensate for their F1 PU knowledge!

As for Hass they technically just buy every bit of the Ferrari they are allowed to and build their car round that. I think it's called 'non listed' parts. That said when they started there was controversy as they used Ferrari wind tunnel and lots of their staff to create 'their' first car.

 

which is all probably fair on redbull but they are still a new pu manufacturer, its fair to reduce the full boost as other brand new entrants should be helped more.

haas were enabled by ferrari.

 

interesting to compare to aston copy.

Ferrari still look to be powering the under wing with this body shape compared to what the aston is trying to power with that air.

It is more extreme, in places and more curved on the outer rear than last year.


the body is still quite wide around the pods so not copying the red bull model. A clear difference in approach continues here, it is cut in a bit more BUT its still the wider bulge under that pod so it questions the ferrari cooling system design.

the front wing looks a bit changed for last year in terms of the overall shape but nose looks pretty much the same.