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[rovertiger]

I'm a racist, I race about all over the place to keep my fitness up

 

[DMD]

I’ve been no more personal than you have.

I view you as a racist. You would rather spend time finding reasons, many of which are wrong or deliberately misinterpreted (defund the police), not to stand (or kneel) against racism than actually take a stand.

You protect & encourage the more openly racist ****ers on here rather than closing them down. You’d rather close down, with whataboutary, thise who choose to speak out.

You’re an in denia,l sneaky racist. The others are in denial too, probably more through age ignorance but you know exactly what you are & what you’re doing.

Your opinion is meaningless as you are a proven bigot.

You have shown yourself to be an advocate for a demonstrably racist organisation, I have shown that my views are well aligned with people that have dedicated most of their life to tackling discrimination and racism.

Now, as your 'insults' are blunt, feel free to offer something of worth to the discussion.

 

[AlRawdah]

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[Ajbtiger]

Whether you attach the baggage to BLM or not is academic, many people do, and there is very good reason to want to distance from a racist organisation, especially given the message they are trying to sell.

It's either ignorance, incompetence or malice that has put the football authorities where they are. A wiser person would change the tagline, and openly condemn the racist BLM movement.

This thread, and others on many other forums show that it is divisive in the extreme. It serves as a great example in a failure of marketing.

Anyone that genuinely wants to unite players and fans against racism would see that, and take the appropriate action, rather than defending what is indefensible as it is itself causing division.

Whether you attach the baggage to BLM or not is academic, many people do, and there is very good reason to want to distance from a racist organisation, especially given the message they are trying to sell.

It's either ignorance, incompetence or malice that has put the football authorities where they are. A wiser person would change the tagline, and openly condemn the racist BLM movement.

This thread, and others on many other forums show that it is divisive in the extreme. It serves as a great example in a failure of marketing.

Anyone that genuinely wants to unite players and fans against racism would see that, and take the appropriate action, rather than defending what is indefensible as it is itself causing division.

Thats a fair point, people are attaching baggage and that should be considered but how? excluding those that genuinely aren't racist, wont the remaining people that oppose always find some sort of attachment to be able to justify views in a more PC way? very few people would just blatantly admit it?

 

[DMD]

Anyway, this black Tory MP has a point of view.

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No politics.

Ta.

I appreciate it's difficult as the Authorities have forced politics on to us, but I avoided posting the views of politicians to try to keep with the board guidelines.

 

[DMD]

Thats a fair point, people are attaching baggage and that should be considered but how? excluding those that genuinely aren't racist, wont the remaining people that oppose always find some sort of attachment to be able to justify views in a more PC way? very few people would just blatantly admit it?

That is a distinct possibility, and a point I readily accept.

In my opinion, removing the clearly divisive phrase, and openly condemning the organisation would leave such people with nowhere to hide.

We had the kick it out campaign for years, and it didn't cause this sort of division. It needs a simple, clear message, and it should also make clear that football is playing a small part in taking its responsibility for what is societies problem.

 

[originalminority]

I understand racist views. I’ve witnessed them first hand. I don’t understand why anybody would be against any anti-racism action. Unless, of course, they’re racist.

There’s many racists on here, encouraged by our own racist moderator,

I object to this accusation, you are getting offensive Benjamin.

 

[DMD]

Okay, I think most people have now had their say, and it's going to make the 'no politics' rule harder to enforce in the future if this goes on much longer, so I'm locking the thread.

It's a sad reflection on the football authorities that they continue with the divisive name, and I'm sure there will have to be more voices telling them how they've got it wrong before they can swallow their pride, climb down and put something in place that is actually meaningful and workable, but if anyone wants to be one of those voices, it'll have to be somewhere other than this board.

Thanks to those who made sensible contributions. It's been interesting.