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Rosie gives his take:


Derby first-team coach Liam Rosenior said that the players were affected by the booing at The Den on Saturday.

He told BBC Radio 5 Live: "It did hurt, but I wasn't surprised because what's happened is that a positive message in terms of unifying people from all different backgrounds - all different creeds, religions, genders, sexualities, races - has been conflated into something that is now being described as political activism.

"I'm really proud to represent my country and my football club, I'm proud to be a black and ethnic minority coach in the game and that hurt, being stood on the touchline hearing the boos.

"It was something we had prepared for but I'd be lying if I didn't say there are players who perform for us and their performances were affected by those supporters.

"Wayne was outstanding on the day in supporting players who were clearly affected by something they couldn't believe was happening in front of their eyes.

"These are players that are doing something they love and I have to say not just Derby players... I thought Mahlon Romeo's performance [for Millwall] was absolutely outstanding.

"It must've been really, really difficult proudly wearing a Millwall shirt to hear supporters boo something that you believe in, which is not a political message, let's make this absolutely clear. This is a message about unifying our country."


I found this bit particularly interesting given the discussion today:


I've heard a lot of people say that football shouldn't be a vehicle for change in society but it absolutely 100% is.

"Look at the actions of Marcus Rashford recently and what he's done to implement change.

"I know that footballers are role models in their communities and that's something where, at the very top, we can affect things the best we can and appoint the very right person for the job moving forward."


We need to look at these instances of prejudice and racism and what it does is move things forward," he said.

"We have a lot of really good people who want the best for every member of our society. So when these negative things happen in football or in society it brings people together and that is actually the message in taking the knee."


I’m sure he’s just a radical extremist, ignore him.
 
Las time got robbed was at WHU that time in 2016 when we hit the woodwork 4 times, tore them a new one and then they got a soft pen that that **** Noble scored near the end..
I got robbed in The Butchers Hook pub outside Stamford Bridge. £6 a pint, a thimble full of peanuts £4 ( times four), and it was my round, with four in the round !
Then the cheeky bastards stopped and searched me at the turnstiles.
 
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I didn't think you were so dim to relate other situations worldwide to argue against the efforts being made by sincere UK footballers. There's a logic disconnect I feel.

So, why aren't they taking stance against what are often worse cases of police brutality and racism in other countries? Lots of innocents persecuted, beaten and murdered around the world but we only take heed of a movement which started in this country because of a violent thug? That is a logic disconnect.
 
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I got robbed in The Butchers Hook pub outside Stamford Bridge. £6 a pint, a thimble full of peanuts £4 ( times four), and it was my round, with four in the round !
Then the cheeky bastards stopped and searched me at the turnstiles.

Very last time I visited Analfield, parked up in a school opp. the dockers club.

Teen attendant comes over & takes money,

Pissing it down, so dint get out for 15 mins.

Rain eases off and by now a middle aged bloke has joined the kid in taking parking money for people parking.

"Have these paid? says the feller to the kid.

The shifty young Mickey thinks for second or 2 and mumbles 'No'

"Get to ****" was the response and to the Theatre of Plastic we went.

Relieved to find the vehicle still intact when we got back..
 
Rosie gives his take:


Derby first-team coach Liam Rosenior said that the players were affected by the booing at The Den on Saturday.

He told BBC Radio 5 Live: "It did hurt, but I wasn't surprised because what's happened is that a positive message in terms of unifying people from all different backgrounds - all different creeds, religions, genders, sexualities, races - has been conflated into something that is now being described as political activism.

"I'm really proud to represent my country and my football club, I'm proud to be a black and ethnic minority coach in the game and that hurt, being stood on the touchline hearing the boos.

"It was something we had prepared for but I'd be lying if I didn't say there are players who perform for us and their performances were affected by those supporters.

"Wayne was outstanding on the day in supporting players who were clearly affected by something they couldn't believe was happening in front of their eyes.

"These are players that are doing something they love and I have to say not just Derby players... I thought Mahlon Romeo's performance [for Millwall] was absolutely outstanding.

"It must've been really, really difficult proudly wearing a Millwall shirt to hear supporters boo something that you believe in, which is not a political message, let's make this absolutely clear. This is a message about unifying our country."


I found this bit particularly interesting given the discussion today:


I've heard a lot of people say that football shouldn't be a vehicle for change in society but it absolutely 100% is.

"Look at the actions of Marcus Rashford recently and what he's done to implement change.

"I know that footballers are role models in their communities and that's something where, at the very top, we can affect things the best we can and appoint the very right person for the job moving forward."


We need to look at these instances of prejudice and racism and what it does is move things forward," he said.

"We have a lot of really good people who want the best for every member of our society. So when these negative things happen in football or in society it brings people together and that is actually the message in taking the knee."


I’m sure he’s just a radical extremist, ignore him.

The fact that tigerscanada was first to like that tells you all you need to know.

Funny how we are always told we should keep politics out of sport (except for banning South Africa of course) but now we are told that it is OK.
 
I got robbed in The Butchers Hook pub outside Stamford Bridge. £6 a pint, a thimble full of peanuts £4 ( times four), and it was my round, with four in the round !
Then the cheeky bastards stopped and searched me at the turnstiles.

Very last time I visited Analfield, parked up in a school opp. the dockers club.

Teen attendant comes over & takes money,

Pissing it down, so dint get out for 15 mins.

Rain eases off and by now a middle aged bloke has joined the kid in taking parking money for people parking.

"Have these paid? says the feller to the kid.

The shifty young Mickey thinks for second or 2 and mumbles 'No'

"Get to ****" was the response and to the Theatre of Plastic we went.

Relieved to find the vehicle still intact when we got back..
 
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I got robbed in The Butchers Hook pub outside Stamford Bridge. £6 a pint, a thimble full of peanuts £4 ( times four), and it was my round, with four in the round !
Then the cheeky bastards stopped and searched me at the turnstiles.
Having a Scottish Father had it's benefits.....Wetherspoons Fulham Broadway(and a 100g bag of dry roasted in my jacket pocket):emoticon-0100-smile
 
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The fact that tigerscanada was first to like that tells you all you need to know.

Funny how we are always told we should keep politics out of sport (except for banning South Africa of course) but now we are told that it is OK.

Well, times have changed. Can't stay the same forever.
 
So, why aren't they taking stance against what are often worse cases of police brutality and racism in other countries? Lots of innocents persecuted, beaten and murdered around the world but we only take heed of a movement which started in this country because of a violent thug? That is a logic disconnect.
Perhaps they are unaware of the other atrocities?
Perhaps they are attempting to address the one that resonates most with their experiences?
At least they are attempting to do something about an issue they or their colleagues identify with?
It's wrong to belittle their efforts. IMO.
 
What about folk in the middle (the large majority?) who are neither racist nor anti-racist , and don't have strong entrenched ideas on the matter?

They just want to see their team play, and are sick of people hijacking their hobby, their pastime and their leisure interest to project a political message from another sport in another country.

I'm sorry but if you're not against racism, you're just a passive racist. Kinda like all those Germans in the 30s and 40s who maybe didn't hate Jews that much but didn't have 'strong entrenched ideas on the matter'. It's not an issue to sit on the fence.
 
I'm sorry but if you're not against racism, you're just a passive racist. Kinda like all those Germans in the 30s and 40s who maybe didn't hate Jews that much but didn't have 'strong entrenched ideas on the matter'. It's not an issue to sit on the fence.

Blimey.
 
I'm sorry but if you're not against racism, you're just a passive racist. Kinda like all those Germans in the 30s and 40s who maybe didn't hate Jews that much but didn't have 'strong entrenched ideas on the matter'. It's not an issue to sit on the fence.

Your problem when trying to invoke Godwin's Law is that BLM are in fact a racist movement. There are far better ways of addressing racism that would help with cohesion rather generate the division that they initiate
 
I'm sorry but if you're not against racism, you're just a passive racist. Kinda like all those Germans in the 30s and 40s who maybe didn't hate Jews that much but didn't have 'strong entrenched ideas on the matter'. It's not an issue to sit on the fence.
'Kinda like ALL those Germans in the 30's and 40's who maybe didn't hate Jews that much......'
FFS, are you for real ?
 
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