Yeah but we'd have to get them to agree to that, that's the point. They hold the cards. They can and will stalemate the situation.
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Yeah but we'd have to get them to agree to that, that's the point. They hold the cards. They can and will stalemate the situation.
You've lost me mate if they don't agree to that we are the same as we are now, so they need us more than we need them.
How do you work that out? It's us who want change not them, they didn't have a referendum. It's us who needs the deal not them. They want everything to stay the same. They're goading us saying go on, leave without a deal knowing full well we can't, they're that much in control.
They export more to us than we do to them how the hell can they be in control?
Because they don't want the change. So as long as there's stalemate they've won and they can maintain that stalemate indefinitely. They can hold out until the deal favours them or just never come to agreement.
Still lost me mate don't bloody change then, then we are all happy but if they export to us £53b and we export to them£44b and we stop trading tomorrow who is the worse off keep it simple mate us or them.
Still lost me mate don't bloody change then, then we are all happy but if they export to us £53b and we export to them£44b and we stop trading tomorrow who is the worse off keep it simple mate us or them.
Won't happen though. No deal is absurd. The implications would be massive.
Not disputing it fella. I'm saying the 100m you highlighted(made bold in my quote) was hypothetical.
Germany could not withstand a trade embargo by the UK Mercedes, BMW, VW,Audi, Semens, all are dependant on exports to us dont think they could take that big a hit
ok mate,still if we did not borrow 13 billion to give away every year we would be canny, India has its own space program ffs, and still take our dosh,as well as 3 world corrupt poloticians
Its hardly jumping the gun to say that May can't control her lapdog and is making an arse of the whole thing thus far.
Are you happy just letting the carnage unfold?
but then they will have a massive hole in their budget who's going to fill it, all the subs of all the nations will have to go up a lot
Everybody suffers from a no deal imo. But in that scenario those in the single market will be best equipped to cope.
Not disputing the waste fella. But it's hardly going to make a difference to the small business man being hit with massive tariffs from being forced to join the WTO. Think it we'll sharp appreciate how important the single market is once we're out of it. It's more complex than comparing bulk savings on paper imo. The single market is woven into our economy and no deal would pull the carpet from under business across Britain. It will be incredibly messy and difficult and it's something we just down't have time to prepare for due to article 50
Sorry mate but once again the dynamics of this money isn't as simple as people make out.
UK signed up to this in the 70's but never really hit their own target until about 2015.
Plus when broken down this money isn't simply given to countries. For example did you know a large part of it is given as loans below market value interest?
Also its used as "sweeteners" for other deals. I remember doing a study in the 90's on USA aid to Ghana. Sure on paper USA was giving $3m dollars in aid but part of the deal was Ghana had to buy America's used and old trains etc which bought in millions for the USA
This is before you even explore the notion of aid being bribes etc
Excuse me? What did the UK sign up to in the 70's? It wasn't the European Union.
What's happened in Catalonia recently is an absolute disgrace and even more reason why we should get out of the EU ASAP. They're nothing but unelected, undemocratic, fascist bastards.
The EU states in its own articles that any member state that inflicts violence on its own citizens will be immediately suspended. Will that happen? Will the European Union uphold their articles even though it will damage them?
Over to you Mr Juncker, European Union and all of its supporters...
