And they tried to sell to the Dais. If the Dais had done some internal reviews of their group they would be our owners by now.
Ehab Speaks
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And they tried to sell to the Dais. If the Dais had done some internal reviews of their group they would be our owners by now.
You don't just bang 30 million on the price because we won a couple of matches ffs.
No, they specifically chose not to sell to the Dais. They pulled out. It wasn't blocked by anyone other than themselves.
No evidence of that whatsoever as far as I'm aware. One poster on here had an issue with him and made that claim. Don't think he ever did say why, but I think he said he'd reveal why if the club ever got sold. Could be a while.
No they really didn't. Where did the PL announced that the sale was blocked, or even that they'd failed the test? They kept quiet because the matter wasn't closed. The only reason that the sale didn't happen was because the Allams pulled out. They reckoned they were fed up of waiting and would talk to someone else. Just a nice bonus that they pocketed a few million out of it of course. The reason they were able to pull out was because the exclusivity period had ended due to delays caused by the F&PP test. The F&PP test did not block the sale. The Allams did.
I read it as an olive branch. The door was firmly closed prior to the appointment of Marco Silva. In the interview he says he would talk to supporters but only if they are prepared to listen. To me that means the door is slightly ajar. The only way we'll know for sure is if we test it and seek a meeting with Ehab. It won't be easy because of the mistrust built up on both sides. It may even end in failure but it is worth trying.
The Dais are certainly responsible for cocking up their Fit & Proper Person test (assuming that's what happened), but the Allams are responsible for moving the goalposts and preventing them from applying again.
This is pretty much exactly what I just said. The Allams moved the goalposts, which with hindsight was stupid as we weren't actually worth the amount they jacked the price up to, but the Dais cocked up the initial purchase by failing the PL's test.
I posted it here under the title Peter Grieve, Ron Konersman and Nick Thompson. Ancient history now.
http://www.hullcityindependent.net/...6&selpage=0&limit=15&obf=post_number&obad=ASC
There's was no evidence any of the groups outside of the Dais had actual cash or that they'd be better for our club either short or long term.
There's been no evidence about what went wrong either apart from the usual "present hearsay and conjecture" as facts bunch.
I feel this article is their response to the Oliver Holt piece at the weekend hence the timing. It reads like PR spin.
His attempt to appear like a reasonable, well meaning but burdened person who just wants to sell the club and move on. He'd love to make it up with the fans but they won't talk to him. So he will just focus on keeping the club in the PL, supporting the manager and looking for a safe pair of hands to sell to.
He's better at keeping on message than his dad but a lot worse at conducting business.
I think that they thought they'd sold the club at the start of the season. I think that's why they didn't appoint a manager or sign any players - not our problem mate. I think that when the Dais deal fell through they did the bear minimum before the window slammed shut as I think they still thought they'd be shot of us in weeks. (The "record" signing is a red herring IMHO as in the current market records are being smashed all the time).
I'm astounded that it didn't seem to occur to them that the interest would dry up if we were bottom 3 by Christmas. I think they are now panicking they won't get shot of us for a decent wedge when we go down.....
All of that is completely without supporting evidence but it's my view....
His attempt to appear like a reasonable, well meaning but burdened person who just wants to sell the club and move on. He'd love to make it up with the fans but they won't talk to him. So he will just focus on keeping the club in the PL, supporting the manager and looking for a safe pair of hands to sell to.
He's better at keeping on message than his dad but a lot worse at conducting business.
I think that they thought they'd sold the club at the start of the season. I think that's why they didn't appoint a manager or sign any players - not our problem mate. I think that when the Dais deal fell through they did the bear minimum before the window slammed shut as I think they still thought they'd be shot of us in weeks. (The "record" signing is a red herring IMHO as in the current market records are being smashed all the time).
I'm astounded that it didn't seem to occur to them that the interest would dry up if we were bottom 3 by Christmas. I think they are now panicking they won't get shot of us for a decent wedge when we go down.....
All of that is completely without supporting evidence but it's my view....
The bridges seem to have been burned between the Club and HCST, so perhaps a sub group could be created to facilitate talks?
There could be the main group, and the Olive Branch.
I reckon we have the makings of the logo.
There could be the main group, and the Olive Branch.
I reckon we have the makings of the logo.
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The fans did listen. For hours and hours on a Friday night at the KC in late 2013. The OSC has listened to the club obediently for much of the past few years. But with the Allams, there is no middle ground. You're either with them or against them. This has been the case at Hull City and it has been the case in the way they've gone about things for decades. They make good friends and horrible enemies. There have been many occasions where dialogue would have been possible, where compromise might have been reached, but the Allams weren't for shifting. It's cost them CEOs, it's cost them trusted advisors, but still they plough on. I didn't read anything in the article that would suggest any form of compromise or even listening to the fans. We have to listen to Ehab. That's all.