Ehab Speaks

[Chilton's Hundreds]

I think it depends on which part of the quote you highlight. I think he'll speak to us if we indicate we are prepared to listen to what he has to say.

All he'll say is if we, the fans, wish to have new owners we should stop protesting about the current owners.

 

[Fez]

So to translate, if the fans were willing to accept everything we said & did without question, then we'd engage them all the time.

I think your full post was a good one and gives a reasonable perspective of matters.

I think this particular point is the important one; I think we all became entrenched (I include myself) due to the endless lies by them and the failed attempts at collaboration by supporters. But the difference is the introduction of the sales negotiations. It was a very slow build, no rush, very little publicity. That has now moved on apace, Allam has underestimated their difficulty (in the atmospjere he is responsible for creating) and he now realises he needs the cooperation of the fanbase

This is an opportunity.

 

[Evington]

But that isn't the case. We have British owners and a lot of fans would like foreign owners. Or some other British owners. Just some other owners...

Somebody ring him up and tell him FFS. What a ****er he is.

 

[Evington]

Not only has Ehab never engaged with the fans, but he's deliberately gone out of his way to piss them off.

The Trust have been calling for a meeting with him ever since the organisation was formed, I'm sure they'll be as happy to have it now as they've always been.

Trying to blame the fans for the club not selling is pathetic, two of the four main consortia who bid contacted the Trust to let them know that if they took over they'd want to engage and get the fans back onside and one of the others is AP's mob, who'll obviously know what's going on.

The trust should have the opportunity for an interview with the YP in response to this

 

[Kempton]

The trust should have the opportunity for an interview with the YP in response to this

This ^

 

[originallambrettaman]

The trust should have the opportunity for an interview with the YP in response to this

Not a bad idea.

 

[Chilton's Hundreds]

I think your full post was a good one and gives a reasonable perspective of matters.

I think this particular point is the important one; I think we all became entrenched (I include myself) due to the endless lies by them and the failed attempts at collaboration by supporters. But the difference is the introduction of the sales negotiations. It was a very slow build, no rush, very little publicity. That has now moved on apace, Allam has underestimated their difficulty (in the atmospjere he is responsible for creating) and he now realises he needs the cooperation of the fanbase

This is an opportunity.

Good luck with that.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Allam has underestimated their difficulty (in the atmospjere he is responsible for creating) and he now realises he needs the cooperation of the fanbase

This is an opportunity.

I think this is wildly optimistic I don't believe he has any desire or intention of engaging with the fans.

 

[Fez]

Good luck with that.

Aye, it's a difficult one, but if the right conditions can be met then all things should be possible. The challenge is for owners, supporters, Trust, etc. to find a way of achieving the next step.

 

[Plum]

What these articles suggest to me is that (1) he finally realises he's ****ed up the team and he knows he needs to do something about it (which he seems to be doing), and (2) there are no prospective buyers in the background pulling strings (like insisting on appointing Silva, etc).

But I think there is no olive branch, he'll never admit he's wrong. If only he'd said something along the lines of 'the membership scheme while working well in some areas as a prototype will need re-examining for next season....' That would have been the olive branch.

I wonder if the Swansea boycott has prompted this in any way, final straw and all that. The national (bad) publicity it seems to have generated must have hurt old man Allam.

 

[Chilton's Hundreds]

Aye, it's a difficult one, but if the right conditions can be met then all things should be possible. The challenge is for owners, supporters, Trust, etc. to find a way of achieving the next step.

The problem is the fanbase is, and never has been, as one. Ehab seems to think the fans are one entity.

So even if HCST meet with Ehab and HCST agree to stop the protests at games (such as the 'Allam Out' chants and banners) there will still be some dissenting individuals who would ignore it.

 

[originallambrettaman]

What these articles suggest to me is that (1) he finally realises he's ****ed up the team and he knows he needs to do something about it (which he seems to be doing), and (2) there are no prospective buyers in the background pulling strings (like insisting on appointing Silva, etc).

But I think there is no olive branch, he'll never admit he's wrong. If only he'd said something along the lines of 'the membership scheme while working well in some areas as a prototype will need re-examining for next season....' That would have been the olive branch.

I wonder if the Swansea boycott has prompted this in any way, final straw and all that. The national (bad) publicity it seems to have generated must have hurt old man Allam.

I think this interview has probably been prompted by the Oliver Holt article in the Daily Mail.

 

[Fez]

I think this is wildly optimistic I don't believe he has any desire or intention of engaging with the fans.

It's an opportunity for the Trust (or others) to project themselves as being available and responsive to any constructive ideas the club might have to change the perceptions over change of ownership. It may be optimistic, but I can see nothing wrong, or damaging in reasserting an open and progressive approach.

Edited due to train bouncing about!

 

[Fez]

The problem is the fanbase is, and never has been, as one. Ehab seems to think the fans are one entity.

So even if HCST meet with Ehab and HCST agree to stop the protests at games (such as the 'Allam Out' chants and banners) there will still be some dissenting individuals who would ignore it.

All things start somewhere.

 

[Kempton]

If the fans really want dialogue with the Allams, all they have to do is agree to agree with everything they say.

Easy.

 

[Chilton's Hundreds]

All things start somewhere.

..and mainly end up nowhere

 

[Evington]

This thread may have been more appropriately titled Ehab Speaks Bollocks (again). Particularly with reference to part 1

 

[Evington]

I think your full post was a good one and gives a reasonable perspective of matters.

I think this particular point is the important one; I think we all became entrenched (I include myself) due to the endless lies by them and the failed attempts at collaboration by supporters. But the difference is the introduction of the sales negotiations. It was a very slow build, no rush, very little publicity. That has now moved on apace, Allam has underestimated their difficulty (in the atmospjere he is responsible for creating) and he now realises he needs the cooperation of the fanbase

This is an opportunity.

I agree. The question is how best to approach this

 

[gtigerbackin hull]

I don't disagree that it's his most honest interview - however that's not hard given he hardly ever gets interviewed and everything else that he's spouted previously has smelt of ****...

This is an interview with a bloke who has (belatedly) realised he's ****ed up but still can't acknowledge it is his making, blaming others for some of the problems....

There wouldn't have been any fan anger if him and his dad had stuck to saving Hull City and attempted to make HCAFC successful rather than all the crap that followed.

The bit about prospective buyers asking don't the fans like foreign owners - **** me dead - the fans don't like you, you clown (The Allam out chants and flags are a little clue for you Ehab.....) and you're from Kirk Ella. And every prospective owner knows we want you out.

He's from Kirkella, except when he tells the shirt sponsors, " I too am an African ". What an utter ****ehawk of a trumped up tosser that twat is.

 

[Chilton's Hundreds]

I agree. The question is how best to approach this

HCST are realistically the only group that can engage.

An open letter from the Trust to Ehab asking for intercourse will see if that olive branch exists or not.

And if it doesn't it might get a titter in the Allam household.