ctwd now out in the open

[TheCasual]

Oh dear...How sad must you be go through 6 months worth of Tweets looking for dirt.

It's a hip flask for god sake.

But anyone will do anything to blame CTWD and not look at real problem that is holding the club back.

Also anyone blaming Allam's culture and language really needs to get grip. He's lived, studied and worked here longer a lot of people on this forum have been alive.

Plenty of straw clutting go on here.

 

[Boothferry2Wembley]

hardly a true fan are you..

It's not about being a true fan these days. It's all about being a quality fan.

 

[BrAdY]

hardly a true fan are you..

It's not about being a true fan these days. It's all about being a quality fan.

what's a quality fan?

 

[x]

So if he felt it was right to sell all the players and strip assets, would you support that?

It would be the same, if he chooses to go down that route that would be entirely up to him. I would have no say in it and do not consider it any of my business.

that is truly bizarre. and you claim to be a hull city supporter but it would be none of your business if the chairman sold off all the best players? i think you'll find that that doesn't quite fit the definition of a hull city supporter. 100% of the rest of us would be very concerned. many of us would go round with pitchfolks, flaming torches, and intervention on our minds. in fact, we might anyway, just to cover all the bases.

 

[Benjo]

So if he felt it was right to sell all the players and strip assets, would you support that?

It would be the same, if he chooses to go down that route that would be entirely up to him. I would have no say in it and do not consider it any of my business.

That has to be the craziest thing I've read on here for a long time! If it's none of your business why bother even keeping an eye out for the results, let alone turn up to a game? By similar logic what if all the companies you pay your bills to decided to up their prices fivefold? Nah, you wouldn't care...

 

[BrAdY]

hull city afc, has the worst fan base in all of the uk... rangers gets 50k in division three
portsmouth gets almost max att in division three

hull city afc.. they boo when loyal fans want to preserve the name that's been around for a century... pathetic

 

[Quill]

Quick question - how do people manage to cock up quotes?

 

[x]

Quick question - how do people manage to cock up quotes?

just been looking at that myself. we didn't, the software did. it removed the closing QUOTE tag from what you said, for reasons i don't understand. i've edited it back into the right place for you.

it might be a fault that happens with nested quotes.

 

[BrAdY]

my dream is to hear city under this

[video=youtube;0Qqd6T_A9LY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qqd6T_A9LY[/video]

but i wouldn't want it, if we are hull tigers...

 

[captain caveman]

There's no campaign and hasn't been since April 9th. What are you on about?

So why are some fans still singing the designated protest song at the designated protest time?

Yes. They continue to exist as a supporters group with a view to becoming a supporters trust. This is what Allam initially suggested and CTWD announced plans to do so very soon after. The membership of CTWD voted in favour of becoming a supporters trust to help fill the void in Hull City fan groups, so now they're doing it.

The name change campaign is over however. They reiterated this with a statement only yesterday. So the guy I quoted was talking nonsense. Symptomatic of the anti-CTWD poster.

When CTWD was formed, ot was claimed to be a single issue supporters group.

I know what you mean but the appeal is surely only gonna go one way. I don't think there's any more we can do as fans. If the appeal was somehow successful and it drags on for another year then the campaign would start again I'm sure but I don't see it.
So we could theoretically end up with a supporterd trust protesting against the owner.



Why would we? He's in the wrong, the fans aren't.

So if he felt it was right to sell all the players and strip assets, would you support that?

However misguided Dr Allams attempts to change the name of the club are, his intentions are to help tje club, assett stripping is purely to line the ppckets of the chairman with scant regard for the wellbeing of the club. Hardly comparable.

 

[AttilaTheHen]

I can't be arsed to go thru all these posts, but I'd reckon on this -

Assem Allam wants to change the club's name from HULL CITY to HULL TIGERS.

On that topic - **** YOU ALLAM.

Simple explantion?

 

[balkan tiger]

I support his right to run the football club he owns the way he sees fit. It's as simple as that.

He can't, owning a football club and investing 100 million does not give you the right to to what you want. You are bound by the rules of the governing body the FA. Put it this way if Mr Allam bought Burton Constable Hall, he couldn't paint it black and amber and install white UPVC windows. It's the rules, simple as that.

 

[Obadiah]

Having such brand of humour is pathetic. Advertising it online is tasteless. I don't see how you can defend this.

So he is guilty of having a pathetic sense of humour and tastelessly putting it on line. A bit different from the claim that this tweet shows CTWD are anti-Allam and have been all along. Out of the, no doubt thousands of tweets he's posted over the last 18 months this is the only one they could find that was allegedly anti-Allam.

I'm not defending it. I just think its pathetic that the first thing people do is jump to the conclusion that a tweet about a gift shows Mark and CTWD is rabidly anti-Allam. There are many examples of similar language used on this board. Are they all meant as signs of hatred? Don't you think some of them attempts at humour, or a rougher form of banter?

 

[Party Hull!]

So someone bought him a hip flask? It had a joke on it?

Don't see how it changes anything.

Maybe if he'd taken the flask to get inscribed himself, and then posted it on Twitter, acting all clever...but he didn't.

I thought in the last 24 to 48 hours this seemed to have simmered down a bit, but oh no, it's back.

Great.

 

[Obadiah]

If you're making any attempt at all to defend that tweet then you also risk losing face Obi, it's completely indefensible, whether someone bought Gretton it or not, it should have been immediately thrown in the bin never to see the light of day again, the inscription on it is way beyond disrespectful!

I'm saying using one tweet and a present from a campaign thats lasted over a year to prove that Mark Gretton is anti-Allam and therefore the whole of CTWD is anti-Allam is pathetic.

Knowing Mark I can see why it would appeal to his sense of humour. Does it appeal to my sense of humour? No it doesn't. Would I have handed the gift back? Yes. Would I have put it on social media? No.

Hull City is at a crossroads. Assem Allam has run out of money and cannot continue funding a Premier League team. We have a funding gap that needs to be filled. I don't think Hull Tigers would have filled it, but it still needs filling. Assem Allam could withdraw from arbitration and ask Hull City supporters for help to bridge that gap. There have been no end of threads on here about how to boost our support and income. There are many talented and wealthy Hull City supporters who, I'm sure, would offer practical help if asked.

Personally I like having the Allam family in charge of Hull City. Much better then an oil rich billionaire. It shows Hull and the surrounding area in a very good light. Does it mean I'd let him change the name, of course not.

He should bury the rotting corpse of Hull Tigers and finish the job of building Hull City into the team he and we want. A lot of the work he has already done. I suspect all he has to do is ask and he'll get plenty of help to take us to the next level.

 

[originallambrettaman]

Mark hasn't called anyone a ****, he was given a gift with a joke on it.

Fair enough if you don't think it's funny, but it's hardly the crime of the century.

Assem might well have a hip flask with 'Gretton Is A ****' on it.

CTWD is not an anti-Allam organisation and no joke inscription on a hip flask changes that fact.

 

[DMD]

It shows how weak the argument is if some try to make this an issue.

On the name change issue, CTWD can hold their heads high.

 

[King Curtis]

It's sad that some people are willing to submit to Allam's every whim. We don't always agree with everything our bosses do or propose, so why should a bloke few if any know personally be any different? So what if he gets upset if people disagree, he's in democratic country and should accept it. Some people can't see the wood for the trees.

 

[Happy Tiger]

Mark hasn't called anyone a ****, he was given a gift with a joke on it.

Fair enough if you don't think it's funny, but it's hardly the crime of the century.

Assem might well have a hip flask with 'Gretton Is A ****' on it.

CTWD is not an anti-Allam organisation and no joke inscription on a hip flask changes that fact.

Odd that the jokes made by the club chairman are twisted out of shape and used to fuel personal attacks on him, yet a "joke" made by the mates of the chairman of CTWD and endorsed by him online are just fine.

Wait, no, thats not odd, that's been the entire basis of CTWDs campaign strategy. "Do as we say not as we do".

I was sort of relaxing about the Supporters Trust thing, but now, not a chance in hell would I want anyone with those types of views anywhere near my club. Nor would I want anyone who privately thinks one thing but publicly is all sweetness, light, respect and calm. No wonder you claim you can't control your own supporters, you don't want to, its exactly these sort of "superfans" who are the cause of the problem.

Duplicitous bastards as we've known all along, this just helps confirm that view.

 

[Obadiah]

Odd that the jokes made by the club chairman are twisted out of shape and used to fuel personal attacks on him, yet a "joke" made by the mates of the chairman of CTWD and endorsed by him online are just fine.

Wait, no, thats not odd, that's been the entire basis of CTWDs campaign strategy. "Do as we say not as we do".

I was sort of relaxing about the Supporters Trust thing, but now, not a chance in hell would I want anyone with those types of views anywhere near my club. Nor would I want anyone who privately thinks one thing but publicly is all sweetness, light, respect and calm. No wonder you claim you can't control your own supporters, you don't want to, its exactly these sort of "superfans" who are the cause of the problem.

Duplicitous bastards as we've known all along, this just helps confirm that view.

How do you know that's his private view? Somebody bought him a hip flask with a joke inscription and he posted it on twitter. To me it shows is a lack of taste, and only a lack of taste. So where is the evidence that the inscription reflects his private views? No other tweets have been shared to support his alleged anti-Allam views. When did you meet him and talk to him about Assem Allam?