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Mate you’re part of a smaller and smaller minority every day. This isn’t about Tory-bashing as others have said. Right wingers are being openly critical of Boris et al as they’ve handled this dreadfully. Of course I don’t personally have every answer. Like all of us though I can look at the countries that were dealt just as bad a hand as us and made the right calls (or just any call) early enough to reduce the pain and question why one of the world’s richest countries with the advantage of a bit more time than other countries hasn’t been as successful at combatting this as it could have been.
Watford as I said I will wait until after the full facts are in. We shouldn't compare with other countries as all countries are different. :emoticon-0148-yes:
 
Interesting news that Gemany's trajectory has changed and now the are getting more deaths and cases. For the first time they have gone above the 1%. In the same news it said we need are trajectory to change otherwise he could surpass Italy. :emoticon-0101-sadsm
 
1900 tonight I finish my 14 days in solitary. I have been staked out like some old goat on a chain where I can't get past the front door. 65 years and Type 1 I was told to do this. I was expecting a letter to say 12 weeks from the NHS, but no letter arrived.
There are so many conflicting things on the internet and various news channels it's doing my head in, and as for them graphs.
As I see it I am now allowed out for exercise keeping my distance etc.
One thing that I would like some advice from the better educated people on here, is that my Dad is 98 and lives 2 miles away from me and my partner should I still stay away from him?
 
1900 tonight I finish my 14 days in solitary. I have been staked out like some old goat on a chain where I can't get past the front door. 65 years and Type 1 I was told to do this. I was expecting a letter to say 12 weeks from the NHS, but no letter arrived.
There are so many conflicting things on the internet and various news channels it's doing my head in, and as for them graphs.
As I see it I am now allowed out for exercise keeping my distance etc.
One thing that I would like some advice from the better educated people on here, is that my Dad is 98 and lives 2 miles away from me and my partner should I still stay away from him?
If you have not seen anyone for two weeks, and can avoid contact with anyone before seeing your Dad, then why not? Of course if he has been seeing other people, especially if he lives with others, he could infect you.....

Good luck Nigsy, I think you are right, keep your distance when out.
 
Testing fiasco all over the media this morning, Empty testing station at Chessington because NHS staff required an appointment to be tested and were turned away if they didn’t have one. These are people who presumably want to go back to work.

There is just no attention to ****ing detail anywhere in this mess, loads of grand statements about what will happen and no idea how to deliver it. There is stacks of intelligence and capacity in this country sitting idle, because everything has to happen via a visibly crumbling NHS - where testing kit is being removed from private and university labs to central points to then sit idle. Just send people to where the kit is, idiots! In the US my company set up a drive through testing station at our head offices for local health care staff only (ie not for our own employees) TWO WEEKS AGO, following a chat with local healthcare administrators. Makes sense we have loads of labs. Don’t see anything like this here, and I don’t think it’s because of lack of willingness more likely bureaucracy, failure of leadership and lack of imagination.

If this is the crisis we are told it is and we are indeed in a ‘war’ (an analogy which I hate and dispute, but nevermind) then we have national capacity which has to be exploited, in full, regardless of which sector it sits in.

Wait for the next farce - we have been told throughout this chaos that face masks for healthy people are a waste of time. But many countries require their population to wear them when out, and now the WHO, clearly one of the most ****ing useless institutions, at least currently, ever created by humans, is ‘investigating’ this again. Stand by to be told to wear a face mask when out, even though there are none. In this mornings Times guidance on how to make one out of kitchen roll and tissue. FFS.

Hope you had a bearable shift Stainsey.

Was an ok shift last night G (just woken up ready for my last one tonight) First 2 jobs were the usual ‘Corona’ jobs with one being perfectly well but just wanted to be tested.
Then had a ‘proper’ job, a cardiac arrest. Spent 2 hours and got ROSC a couple of times but unfortunately patient was unable to maintain it and passed. I must say, doing chest compressions for 2 hours in goggles, mask and tyvek suit can make you rather sweaty by the end.

I will say this happening with the testing ain’t all the fault of the authorities. Everyone in healthcare should, and does, know that you have to make an appointment and can’t just ‘turn up’. The people, I’ve seen anyway, complaining seem to of done just this and have turned up on a whim and expected to be seen......I wouldn’t turn up at my GP’s and expect to be seen without an appointment so why would this be any different ? Just seems an easy way to slag of the system.
 
Apparently NHS workers turning up for drive-in tests and being turned away as they don't have appointments, getting farcical now...

But is it ?? As a Healthcare worker, I know I need to make an appointment...I know I can’t just turn up and be seen. I wouldn’t just turn up at my GP and demand to have a blood test. I can’t see what is the difference.
 
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Was an ok shift last night G (just woken up ready for my last one tonight) First 2 jobs were the usual ‘Corona’ jobs with one being perfectly well but just wanted to be tested.
Then had a ‘proper’ job, a cardiac arrest. Spent 2 hours and got ROSC a couple of times but unfortunately patient was unable to maintain it and passed. I must say, doing chest compressions for 2 hours in goggles, mask and tyvek suit can make you rather sweaty by the end.

I will say this happening with the testing ain’t all the fault of the authorities. Everyone in healthcare should, and does, know that you have to make an appointment and can’t just ‘turn up’. The people, I’ve seen anyway, complaining seem to of done just this and have turned up on a whim and expected to be seen......I wouldn’t turn up at my GP’s and expect to be seen without an appointment so why would this be any different ? Just seems an easy way to slag of the system.
Fair enough M, I was unaware of that, assumed you turned up showed your NHS ID and got it done, but on reflection that could lead to massive waits, difficulty distancing, problems tracking who has been tested etc.

Just done my bi weekly hunter gathering (self isolating elderly neighbours had requested - get this - smoked haddock and nothing else. I suspect they think I am an offshoot of Harrods Delicatessen). Town now distinctly odd. Boots was like Fort Knox. One at a time entrance, asked how you feel and if you need the pharmacy on the way in, all the cosmetics etc cordoned off, only one till open, protected by plastic sheeting. Similar in M&S, which is well stocked. Excellent social distancing in the queue to get into the Tesco Metro (which I didn’t need today) with security guard at the door. Unfortunately 18 inches behind the security guard and 3 ft from the entrance a homeless woman had set up camp.
 
Fair enough M, I was unaware of that, assumed you turned up showed your NHS ID and got it done, but on reflection that could lead to massive waits, difficulty distancing, problems tracking who has been tested etc.

Just done my bi weekly hunter gathering (self isolating elderly neighbours had requested - get this - smoked haddock and nothing else. I suspect they think I am an offshoot of Harrods Delicatessen). Town now distinctly odd. Boots was like Fort Knox. One at a time entrance, asked how you feel and if you need the pharmacy on the way in, all the cosmetics etc cordoned off, only one till open, protected by plastic sheeting. Similar in M&S, which is well stocked. Excellent social distancing in the queue to get into the Tesco Metro (which I didn’t need today) with security guard at the door. Unfortunately 18 inches behind the security guard and 3 ft from the entrance a homeless woman had set up camp.

Im all for slagging off the authorities when I can....I’ve done it for years and will continue to do it when I feel necessary.....but in this case it seems to me anyway, and from the people I’ve seen interviewed, that the ones who are doing the complaining are the ones who have just ‘turned up’. I personally know many people in my line of work who called, made their appointment, had their swabs and are waiting (or have received) their results. The system does work if people abide by the rules.
 
But is it ?? As a Healthcare worker, I know I need to make an appointment...I know I can’t just turn up and be seen. I wouldn’t just turn up at my GP and demand to have a blood test. I can’t see what is the difference.

The people I saw interviewed earlier said there was no queue but were turned away, that, in light of the urgency seemed ludicrous. I agree with your point but this seemed harsh...
 
The people I saw interviewed earlier said there was no queue but were turned away, that, in light of the urgency seemed ludicrous. I agree with your point but this seemed harsh...

I agree the people I saw interviewed said the same.....but mate, the system is there for a reason. Why couldn’t these interviewees of made an appointment as instructed or advised to do so ? Might have a good reason but to be honest, I’m erring on the side of some thinking...’**** it, I’m important, I’ll just turn up’...it just don’t work like that.
Same as my mate who had a row at Tesco’s last week with some fat bint (his description) during NHS hour.......Everyone waiting in queue and keeping a distance when this ‘woman’ walks to the front of the till and demands to be served first as she’s an important key worker.....from what I was told (by him), she was told in no uncertain terms that they were ALL key workers and she should wait like everyone else....I’ve seen this hasn’t been an uncommon theme.
 
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