Agree with what you are saying, maybe just maybe lessons will be learnt over funding for the NHS when all this is over. I personally blame Cameron and Osborne for a lot of this underfunding. They were and are alright jack with their millions.Most people, even if they think they have coronavirus, are still supposed to stay home and self treat (take fluids plus paracetamol). Serious cases are supposed to ask for help and I think a clue that you are a serious case will be you can't ****ing breathe. If I'm that bad I won't waste a lot of time calling 111, if they don't answer it will be 999.
On the example of people in A&E they probably should have been at home self treating (most of them anyway) - only feeling bloody awful does not warrant a hospital admission. If they couldn't breath I'm surprised they could even get to A&E.
Not saying that's how it should be, but remember we've been cutting real expenditure on the NHS for the last 10 years, so that's how it is in reality.
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Funniest thing Ive seen in agesBitter people are very high risk, it's been nice knowing you.and fat, they can all sod off too. I'm hoping they'll introduce an IQ test to weed out a few more. Or just ask if they voted Leave, which does the same job really.
Ask the people of Italy they seem to know a lot or Spain or even ChinaWhat this corona “crisis” have shown us is that we do have some ****ing hysterical leaders and people around the world.
A lot about what?Ask the people of Italy they seem to know a lot or Spain or even China
1 ........It would have ripped through 80% of the population killing 500,000
2 ......Now as businesses go under, as people lose there pay and the stress builds, how many are going to think bollocks, self first my security and a roof over my head is important.
I’m more of a red wine man.Bitter people are very high risk, it's been nice knowing you.![]()
In people where there has been a finish result, ie got better or died it's 8% most cases are on going, flu is 0.1%.1. Some peolpe realy do talk a lot of BS, it want even get to 1,0% and it is now 0.0025% (188,297) and it is 0.0001% (7.499) that has died. The black deat was a real crises and it killed somewhere between 30% to 60% of the population Europe.
Here is a link to 10 of the worst pandemics in history: https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/
2. And who is at fault for that? Well it is the coverment around the world that ia in full panic mode.
1. Some peolpe realy do talk a lot of BS, it want even get to 1,0% and it is now 0.0025% (188,297) and it is 0.0001% (7.499) that has died. The black deat was a real crises and it killed somewhere between 30% to 60% of the population Europe.
Here is a link to 10 of the worst pandemics in history: https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/
2. And who is at fault for that? Well it is the coverment around the world that ia in full panic mode.
Just posting what was being discussed on Radio 2 mate1. Some peolpe realy do talk a lot of BS, it want even get to 1,0% and it is now 0.0025% (188,297) and it is 0.0001% (7.499) that has died. The black deat was a real crises and it killed somewhere between 30% to 60% of the population Europe.
Here is a link to 10 of the worst pandemics in history: https://www.mphonline.org/worst-pandemics-in-history/
2. And who is at fault for that? Well it is the coverment around the world that ia in full panic mode.
And if it had happened in prehistoric times we would be saying more people get eaten by Dinosaurs, but it's here now, so we live in the present.Jeremy Vine radio 2 had some 90 year old ex doctor article, he said if this had happened when he’d been in practice nobody would have known the wiser.
It would have ripped through 80% of the population killing 500,000 vulnerable and elderly a large portion of which would have died within the year anyway.
At the end of it we’d have just said that was a bad year for flu and a few years on wed have discovered it was a different strain. They are touching on the subject would it be morally wrong to let this run it’s course.
Now as businesses go under, as people lose there pay and the stress builds, how many are going to think bollocks, self first my security and a roof over my head is important.
As the effects start to really strike home you know it’s going to happen.
That was the doctor on the shows argument, I’m not taking sides on it mate, I’m just pointing out if that’s the kind of debate taking place already and if the Government don’t come out with a huge package to help small business and the self employed you can see what way this is going to goAnd if it had happened in prehistoric times we would be saying more people get eaten by Dinosaurs, but it's here now, so we live in the present.