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Jarramag88 said:
You have to be sympathetic to circumstance. What happened to you is tragic and personal to you, but it doesn't make you an authority on every case of suicide. No one knows what drives people to it. Everyone is different and deals with their problems in a different way.
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I'm voicing my opinion on the matter not giving a clinical analysis.

If people are going to be banned from here for having an opinion, nearly everyone will be for the high jump.

You yourself have been very personal in your name calling of myself. <ok>

Did I take it personally?
Nope.

It's the ****ing internet for Christs sake, get over it.
 
This has brought some memorires back to me, has anyone seen the Erskine Bridge?
 
I Sit Next To A Badger-Leazes Corner said:
I do apologise for not noticing a username. God have mercy on me.
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You're just embarrassing yourself with your lying now.
You haven't noticed a regular Mag poster with a huge picture of Humble in his signature who makes constant bad taste comments?
Yet you HAVE managed to find every post I have ever made since the beginning of the internet and had an opinion on it.

How very strange!
Do you have myopia?
 
MackemsRule said:
I'm voicing my opinion on the matter not giving a clinical analysis.

If people are going to be banned from here for having an opinion, nearly everyone will be for the high jump.

You yourself have been very personal in your name calling of myself. <ok>

Did I take it personally?
Nope.

It's the ****ing internet for Christs sake, get over it.
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Hang on a minute. I never start a war of words with you, I react to what I read.
I understand where your coming from. Everyone has an opinion and a belief. But there are lines and and you choose to skate very close to them with a subject like this. Bringing up gary speed?? Come on, you know for a fact it's gping to kick off so why mention it.
 
MackemsRule said:
You're just embarrassing yourself with your lying now.
You haven't noticed a regular Mag poster with a huge picture of Humble in his signature who makes constant bad taste comments?
Yet you HAVE managed to find every post I have ever made since the beginning of the internet and had an opinion on it.

How very strange!
Do you have myopia?
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I would probably have read comments from him, but rarely read a long username, or take much notice of them.

I'm embarrassing myself? You're a self-centred moron, you write long rants when something goes against you when you are clearly in the wrong in the first place. It was a stupid topic to mention and you knew it would get a reaction, yet complain when people have a go.

Get over yourself man, you're meant to be the grown up after all. I'll leave you to complain about someone not noticing a name on a forum, I think you need to deal with the powers that be on why he was allowed to stay? Quite insulting that you'd think I'd approve of something like that. Twisted, twisted man.
 
I do get that side of it. I really do. I've seen people commit suicide and wonder how the hell they could do that to their wife/husband, children and family. Doing it caused untolled grief and pain for so many people, so I couldn't get my head around how someone could do that to those they loved. Coward isn't a word I'd use. The word I would use is selfish.

HOWEVER, whilst I can see that side of the story, it's not an opinion I really abide to in any serious manner, as I simply do not know, and hopefully never will know, what goes on in their heads at the point of suicide. Without knowing that, I can't in good conscience make a solid opinion. For all I know, the mind could quite literally be warped to the point where the person thinks that they're doing their family a great favour by commiting suicide, and that their mind simply can't comprehend the pain it would cause. I know the brain can do some incredibly bizarre things at times.
 
Billy Death chunky pineapple balls said:
This has brought some memorires back to me, has anyone seen the Erskine Bridge?
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Trying not to be funny in any of my comments, Billy.
I know everything is still very raw for you.

I couldn't care a less about some random footballer. (By the way I haven't made any jokes about him apart from the mention of the word coward.)

You I do care about.

My point about Speed was quite clear, somehow it's wrong to say anything about an Ex Newcastle player but it is ok to call our manager a *****phile.
Nothing wrong with my comment apart from causing angst to a couple of pre-pubescent Mags.
The ***** comments are actionable.

Me, I laugh and joke about it now.
Especially with my eldest, she had me sussed and was watching my painkillers carefully.
I was tempted by a high speed crash late at night on the A19.
3 am doing 140 heading South and was checking out the pillars and which one would be best.
 
Chappaz said:
I do get that side of it. I really do. I've seen people commit suicide and wonder how the hell they could do that to their wife/husband, children and family. Doing it caused untolled grief and pain for so many people, so I couldn't get my head around how someone could do that to those they loved. Coward isn't a word I'd use. The word I would use is selfish.

HOWEVER, whilst I can see that side of the story, it's not an opinion I really abide to in any serious manner, as I simply do not know, and hopefully never will know, what goes on in their heads at the point of suicide. Without knowing that, I can't in good conscience make a solid opinion. For all I know, the mind could quite literally be warped to the point where the person thinks that they're doing their family a great favour by commiting suicide, and that their mind simply can't comprehend the pain it would cause. I know the brain can do some incredibly bizarre things at times.
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Good post Chappy but like you say you don't know what go's on in the human mind& aint talking about Janie here that's just another demon to suffer.
 
I Sit Next To A Badger-Leazes Corner said:
I would probably have read comments from him, but rarely read a long username, or take much notice of them.

I'm embarrassing myself? You're a self-centred moron, you write long rants when something goes against you when you are clearly in the wrong in the first place. It was a stupid topic to mention and you knew it would get a reaction, yet complain when people have a go.

Get over yourself man, you're meant to be the grown up after all. I'll leave you to complain about someone not noticing a name on a forum, I think you need to deal with the powers that be on why he was allowed to stay? Quite insulting that you'd think I'd approve of something like that. Twisted, twisted man.
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You are a mod, close the thread down if you see no relevance in someones debate, is he being offensive? or are you being provocative?
 
Jarramag88 said:
Hang on a minute. I never start a war of words with you, I react to what I read.
I understand where your coming from. Everyone has an opinion and a belief. But there are lines and and you choose to skate very close to them with a subject like this. Bringing up gary speed?? Come on, you know for a fact it's gping to kick off so why mention it.
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Bonny lad the rights or wrongs of it is bullshit.
I'm making comments on the Sunderland board, if you are coming on to find my posts to have a go at me and call me names more power to your elbow.

Of course you could always stay on the Newcastle board and just avoid me all together.
But you preferred to stay and call me names.
I didn't follow you to the Mag board to carry it on, you stayed here to keep trying to put me down.
I didn't ask for you to be banned, both 5-1 and Tadger have abused me personally, yet get all high and mighty.
You want to call me get on with it.

It's the ****ing internet!


I couldn't give two ****s about Gary Speed, Whitney Houston or any other random ****er that has died.

I was pointing out the hypocrisy about you ****ers calling MON a *****.
The worst thing you could call anyone in my personal opinion.

And I called Tash it on a thread on GC where he posted a picture of a scantily clad little girl and then made a comment like "You would though wouldn't you?
May well have been the start of the downfall of the mags on there as they were all taking the piss out of him.

I haven't made jokes about Speed, just voiced my opinion.
My thinking him a coward is a personal observation.
Calling someone a ***** without proof is actionable by law.

How many of those involved in calling MON a ***** have been banned?

Not asking for it to happen just wondering.
 
Chappaz said:
I do get that side of it. I really do. I've seen people commit suicide and wonder how the hell they could do that to their wife/husband, children and family. Doing it caused untolled grief and pain for so many people, so I couldn't get my head around how someone could do that to those they loved. Coward isn't a word I'd use. The word I would use is selfish.

HOWEVER, whilst I can see that side of the story, it's not an opinion I really abide to in any serious manner, as I simply do not know, and hopefully never will know, what goes on in their heads at the point of suicide. Without knowing that, I can't in good conscience make a solid opinion. For all I know, the mind could quite literally be warped to the point where the person thinks that they're doing their family a great favour by commiting suicide, and that their mind simply can't comprehend the pain it would cause. I know the brain can do some incredibly bizarre things at times.
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Chap I'm looking at it from both sides.
Coming close myself and seeing what it does first hand.

I called my cousins husband a coward at the time as did she.
His was money related, in debt and lost his job.
I have more sympathy for him than a multi millionaire footballer that destroyed his young kids lives.
 
I Sit Next To A Badger-Leazes Corner said:
I would probably have read comments from him, but rarely read a long username, or take much notice of them.

I'm embarrassing myself? You're a self-centred moron, you write long rants when something goes against you when you are clearly in the wrong in the first place. It was a stupid topic to mention and you knew it would get a reaction, yet complain when people have a go.

Get over yourself man, you're meant to be the grown up after all. I'll leave you to complain about someone not noticing a name on a forum, I think you need to deal with the powers that be on why he was allowed to stay? Quite insulting that you'd think I'd approve of something like that. Twisted, twisted man.
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I'm going to type this very slowly.

How am I in the wrong? Please be specific no generalisations.

Have you made it your mission to get the Mags posting the ***** comments banned?

Which do you think is worse a living person being accused of *****philia or a dead multi millionaire footballer being called a coward for destroying his family?

PS.
Stop lying about Humble you're making your self look like an idiot. (Well more than usual.)
 
MackemsRule said:
I have more sympathy for him than a multi millionaire footballer that destroyed his young kids lives.
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See, to me, when depression and suicide occurs to someone who doesn't really have anything wrong with their lives, it just highlights how much of an illness it really is. Gary Speed had a great job, a family, a loving wife, children, many friends and a lot of things to look forward to. If he felt that depressed that he ended his own life, then how could it be anything other than an illness which literally warped his mind beyond all comprehension?

Someone commiting suicide because their life situation has got so sad is sort of understandable, but commiting suicide when there's nothing actually wrong with their lives other than having demons in their mind for no particular reason really does highlight the illness side of it.
 
MackemsRule said:
I'm going to type this very slowly.

How am I in the wrong? Please be specific no generalisations.

Have you made it your mission to get the Mags posting the ***** comments banned?

Which do you think is worse a living person being accused of *****philia or a dead multi millionaire footballer being called a coward for destroying his family?

PS.
Stop lying about Humble you're making your self look like an idiot. (Well more than usual.)
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Both are actually really disgusting and both shouldn't be said on a football forum for Christ sake. Aye, Gary Speed was a Newcastle player, so we do have a closer connection to him than yourself which I understand, and they are your views, but don't air stuff like that on a football forum, that's where you are in the wrong.

As for the calling of MoN, it's sick, it really is, and action should be taken against those who said it, however whether they actually believe what they are saying is another thing, it's obviously only done to get a reaction.

As for making myself look like an idiot, just look back and your posts mate, not just on here but on most articles where you have a rant about us 'children'. Like I said, it's a football forum, passions need to be calmed. If you want to get worked up and lose sleep over whether or not I saw a username, be my guest.
 
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