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I voted to leave mate for the following reasons.
1, I didn't really understand what affects the outcome would really be , so I watched a lot of what the experts and politicians said which only confused me more.
2, I believed we would have all this money that we were apparently paying into the EU to help fund a better NHS
3, I believed we would be able to form better trade deals for buy and selling outside the EU
4, I believed we would control our borders allowing professional people to come and work here and stop the influx of people that just wanted a free ride.
After watching as many programmes about it as I could before I voted I was probably more confused than when I started but thought leave was the right vote for the above reasons.
However as you can see from the reasons I voted not one has come to fruition.
I honestly believe that is why the leave vote won was because so many people didn't know exactly what they were voting for.
I work with the public everyday and the amount of times I heard comments about I'm sick of all the money we give the EU, I'm sick of all these foreigners coming in and sponging off the state, but I could guarantee 75% of these people don't even vote in a general election. Every person has the right to vote but it would be a bit better if we all knew what we were voting for

Well said. I think it was whoever told the best lies won.
 
I voted to leave mate for the following reasons.
1, I didn't really understand what affects the outcome would really be , so I watched a lot of what the experts and politicians said which only confused me more.
2, I believed we would have all this money that we were apparently paying into the EU to help fund a better NHS
3, I believed we would be able to form better trade deals for buy and selling outside the EU
4, I believed we would control our borders allowing professional people to come and work here and stop the influx of people that just wanted a free ride.
After watching as many programmes about it as I could before I voted I was probably more confused than when I started but thought leave was the right vote for the above reasons.
However as you can see from the reasons I voted not one has come to fruition.
I honestly believe that is why the leave vote won was because so many people didn't know exactly what they were voting for.
I work with the public everyday and the amount of times I heard comments about I'm sick of all the money we give the EU, I'm sick of all these foreigners coming in and sponging off the state, but I could guarantee 75% of these people don't even vote in a general election. Every person has the right to vote but it would be a bit better if we all knew what we were voting for

Well that's about as clear, logical and honest a post as I've seen on here.

I openly admit I went to bed believing we'd never vote for, what I predicted, twenty years of chaos and disruption ...

.. I was staggered when I woke up to the result tbh.

Lots of decent sensible people kept saying 'Get Brexit Done' and were quite fanatical about it. Boris is now routinely applauded and praised for 'Getting Brexit done' but, tbh, I've absolutely no idea what that means and no one seems able to explain.

It reminds me of the Spice Girls craze when women would make victory signs and shout 'Girl Power'. If you asked what that meant they'd just shout it again ...

... turned out it just meant behaving like lads and throwing away some of their advantages and uniqueness
 
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I voted to leave mate for the following reasons.
1, I didn't really understand what affects the outcome would really be , so I watched a lot of what the experts and politicians said which only confused me more.
2, I believed we would have all this money that we were apparently paying into the EU to help fund a better NHS
3, I believed we would be able to form better trade deals for buy and selling outside the EU
4, I believed we would control our borders allowing professional people to come and work here and stop the influx of people that just wanted a free ride.
After watching as many programmes about it as I could before I voted I was probably more confused than when I started but thought leave was the right vote for the above reasons.
However as you can see from the reasons I voted not one has come to fruition.
I honestly believe that is why the leave vote won was because so many people didn't know exactly what they were voting for.
I work with the public everyday and the amount of times I heard comments about I'm sick of all the money we give the EU, I'm sick of all these foreigners coming in and sponging off the state, but I could guarantee 75% of these people don't even vote in a general election. Every person has the right to vote but it would be a bit better if we all knew what we were voting for
I also don’t think it was helpful that a significant chunk of the media (or the select few billionaires who own and control them) were strongly supporting Brexit and the euro sceptics before that. The narrative seemed distinctly biased from the off with a lot of headlines manipulating voter emotions. Those relying on the traditional media were steered towards Leave. Those on social media, we’ve all seen what happened there with targeted posting etc.

I might come across a little bitter and i probably am a little if I’m totally honest. Just hope our kids grow up with more media savvy than our generation.
 
I also don’t think it was helpful that a significant chunk of the media (or the select few billionaires who own and control them) were strongly supporting Brexit and the euro sceptics before that. The narrative seemed distinctly biased from the off with a lot of headlines manipulating voter emotions. Those relying on the traditional media were steered towards Leave. Those on social media, we’ve all seen what happened there with targeted posting etc.

I might come across a little bitter and i probably am a little if I’m totally honest. Just hope our kids grow up with more media savvy than our generation.

The media allocating the Union Jack to Leave, and the daft Euro flag to Remain, was probably all it took to persuade some ...

... blaming foreigners, and the French in particular, for all our problems has been going on since Agincourt.

I still can't believe some people give 'fish quotas' as a reason, for leaving, without any idea of how they work and who has them.
 
I also don’t think it was helpful that a significant chunk of the media (or the select few billionaires who own and control them) were strongly supporting Brexit and the euro sceptics before that. The narrative seemed distinctly biased from the off with a lot of headlines manipulating voter emotions. Those relying on the traditional media were steered towards Leave. Those on social media, we’ve all seen what happened there with targeted posting etc.

I might come across a little bitter and i probably am a little if I’m totally honest. Just hope our kids grow up with more media savvy than our generation.
Even now mate I'm not ashamed to admit it still haven't got a clue, one side saying the country is in this state because of brexit the other side saying its the result of covid and the war in Ukraine, I had Boris Johnson (tory) as my prime minister and Ian Lavery( Labour) as my local MP, I don't think there are 2 more corrupt and untrustworthy people in politics and these are the people supposed to be looking after my local and national affairs. I'm not surprised I haven't got a clue what's going on
 
I can see why people wanted to feel like they had control. Quite why then voted for Eton’s finest, the representatives of Britain’s elite who consequently excluded thousands of people from having a vote, banned protest and ignored the considerations of 49% by acting like xenophobic extremists.
 
Was 52% against 48% enough of a victory to put the country through so much turmoil and uncertainty in the first place? I have strong doubts about that.

Could have had another vote to confirm once the agreed deal with the EU was thrashed out. At least people would know exactly what they were voting for then.

(Edit to correct the percentages)
 
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Was 51% against 49% enough of a victory to put the country through so much turmoil and uncertainty in the first place? I have strong doubts about that.

Could have had another vote to confirm once the agreed deal with the EU was thrashed out. At least people would know exactly what they were voting for then.

There are still hundreds, if not thousands, of issues to sort out, some are huge and complex ...

... it's as far from 'oven ready' as a chicken from an egg that hasn't yet been laid.

In an age of serious climate concerns we ditch a vast market we're connected to, via a forty mile tunnel we paid for, and go off to Thailand and Australia trying to set up deals.

It's like the local brewery refusing to sell beer to local drinkers.
 
I also don’t think it was helpful that a significant chunk of the media (or the select few billionaires who own and control them) were strongly supporting Brexit and the euro sceptics before that. The narrative seemed distinctly biased from the off with a lot of headlines manipulating voter emotions. Those relying on the traditional media were steered towards Leave. Those on social media, we’ve all seen what happened there with targeted posting etc.

I might come across a little bitter and i probably am a little if I’m totally honest. Just hope our kids grow up with more media savvy than our generation.
What didn't help the remain camp was all they could put forward was that things would stay the same, where as the leave camp could make as many false promises as they wanted of how much better it would be to leave, the only problem with that is if it was lies and the promises weren't forthcoming then we aren't going to find out till its too late
 
Was 52% against 48% enough of a victory to put the country through so much turmoil and uncertainty in the first place? I have strong doubts about that.

Could have had another vote to confirm once the agreed deal with the EU was thrashed out. At least people would know exactly what they were voting for then.

(Edit to correct the percentages)

Well, it’s borderline ain’t it.

Considering the % of Brits that voted v population it was never definitive.

It is a majority I suppose.
 
... the good, the bad and the ugly.

What are the benefits, what did you vote for, what did you hope for. I don't think anyone knew how this would all pan out, certainly not the 'experts', but have any of the forecasts and promises come true. Whichever way we voted we shouldn't have a problem discussing it, voting to leave doesn't mean it can never be mentioned again .

Some of the problems weren't even envisioned, like this ...

https://inews.co.uk/news/world/bought-dream-home-sicily-post-brexit-rules-2431584
There are no benefits (apart from Blue ****ing passports) - it was a vote for racism. Plain and simple
 
What didn't help the remain camp was all they could put forward was that things would stay the same, where as the leave camp could make as many false promises as they wanted of how much better it would be to leave, the only problem with that is if it was lies and the promises weren't forthcoming then we aren't going to find out till its too late

It was like a wife of forty years and an exciting new girlfriend ...

... easy to get people all excited <laugh>