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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Smug in Boots, Jun 24, 2023.

  1. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

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    Well said. I think it was whoever told the best lies won.
     
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  2. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Well that's about as clear, logical and honest a post as I've seen on here.

    I openly admit I went to bed believing we'd never vote for, what I predicted, twenty years of chaos and disruption ...

    .. I was staggered when I woke up to the result tbh.

    Lots of decent sensible people kept saying 'Get Brexit Done' and were quite fanatical about it. Boris is now routinely applauded and praised for 'Getting Brexit done' but, tbh, I've absolutely no idea what that means and no one seems able to explain.

    It reminds me of the Spice Girls craze when women would make victory signs and shout 'Girl Power'. If you asked what that meant they'd just shout it again ...

    ... turned out it just meant behaving like lads and throwing away some of their advantages and uniqueness
     
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  3. Downeys Loup

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    I also don’t think it was helpful that a significant chunk of the media (or the select few billionaires who own and control them) were strongly supporting Brexit and the euro sceptics before that. The narrative seemed distinctly biased from the off with a lot of headlines manipulating voter emotions. Those relying on the traditional media were steered towards Leave. Those on social media, we’ve all seen what happened there with targeted posting etc.

    I might come across a little bitter and i probably am a little if I’m totally honest. Just hope our kids grow up with more media savvy than our generation.
     
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  4. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    The media allocating the Union Jack to Leave, and the daft Euro flag to Remain, was probably all it took to persuade some ...

    ... blaming foreigners, and the French in particular, for all our problems has been going on since Agincourt.

    I still can't believe some people give 'fish quotas' as a reason, for leaving, without any idea of how they work and who has them.
     
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  5. Iain

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    Even now mate I'm not ashamed to admit it still haven't got a clue, one side saying the country is in this state because of brexit the other side saying its the result of covid and the war in Ukraine, I had Boris Johnson (tory) as my prime minister and Ian Lavery( Labour) as my local MP, I don't think there are 2 more corrupt and untrustworthy people in politics and these are the people supposed to be looking after my local and national affairs. I'm not surprised I haven't got a clue what's going on
     
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  6. Pure River Slut

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    I can see why people wanted to feel like they had control. Quite why then voted for Eton’s finest, the representatives of Britain’s elite who consequently excluded thousands of people from having a vote, banned protest and ignored the considerations of 49% by acting like xenophobic extremists.
     
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  7. gelders pie

    gelders pie Well-Known Member

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    So if it's decided we have another vote to go back in, do we have a couple of years of two sides telling lies again, then if its a return vote, years of negotiating our terms of membership etc ? Can't wait !
     
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  8. Nads

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    A vote today would absolute piss ‘remain’ or ‘rejoin’
     
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  9. Robertson

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    Was 52% against 48% enough of a victory to put the country through so much turmoil and uncertainty in the first place? I have strong doubts about that.

    Could have had another vote to confirm once the agreed deal with the EU was thrashed out. At least people would know exactly what they were voting for then.

    (Edit to correct the percentages)
     
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  10. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    There are still hundreds, if not thousands, of issues to sort out, some are huge and complex ...

    ... it's as far from 'oven ready' as a chicken from an egg that hasn't yet been laid.

    In an age of serious climate concerns we ditch a vast market we're connected to, via a forty mile tunnel we paid for, and go off to Thailand and Australia trying to set up deals.

    It's like the local brewery refusing to sell beer to local drinkers.
     
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  11. Iain

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    What didn't help the remain camp was all they could put forward was that things would stay the same, where as the leave camp could make as many false promises as they wanted of how much better it would be to leave, the only problem with that is if it was lies and the promises weren't forthcoming then we aren't going to find out till its too late
     
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  12. Nads

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    Well, it’s borderline ain’t it.

    Considering the % of Brits that voted v population it was never definitive.

    It is a majority I suppose.
     
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    There are no benefits (apart from Blue ****ing passports) - it was a vote for racism. Plain and simple
     
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    Yet you still voted for the unknown. Baffling
     
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  15. Smug in Boots

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    It was like a wife of forty years and an exciting new girlfriend ...

    ... easy to get people all excited <laugh>
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    Or the 'Iconic British passport' as the government have it ...

    ... printed in Poland by foreigners to keep costs down <doh>
     
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  17. GaryClark

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    I am not a fisherman so not bothered who catches my fish
     
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  18. GaryClark

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    The European union never regulated for straight bananas nor the size of the barmaids chest.
     
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  19. Nads

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    I do quite like me passport like,
    Wasn’t a fan of the burgundy.
     
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  20. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    Most UK fish quotas are owned by Tory supporting millionaires ...

    ... or other countries.

    Lots comes to you from Denmark I'd think
     
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