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pineappleupsidedown said:
Luxembourg ... population same as Glasgow
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Think everyone under 16 gets free travel in London. Should that be means tested? After half 9 here buses are a lot cheaper due to the idea that those using them at that time will be unemployed. Should you have to produce a letter from the dole to the bus driver?

There will never be a perfect system but getting het up because someone else is getting something cheap or free is daft.
 
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I don't get this **** about people getting free stuff tbh. Especially pensioners. The UK is one of the worst countries in Europe for state pensions. Our pensioners get a pittance. Most have paid into the system all their lives and are made to feel like a leech when they retire at whatever age the Government has decided we have to work too this week.

Pay a decent pension I say. Free public transport, fuel, rent and the BBC should be told to go stick their TV licence up their hole.

Power to the pensioners.
 
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A.L.D.O 4.1 said:
I don't get this **** about people getting free stuff tbh. Especially pensioners. The UK is one of the worst countries in Europe for state pensions. Our pensioners get a pittance. Most have paid into the system all their lives and are made to feel like a leech when they retire at whatever age the Government has decided we have to work too this week.

Pay a decent pension I say. Free public transport, fuel, rent and the BBC should be told to go stick their TV licence up their hole.

Power to the pensioners.
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60 is not pensionable age though is it?
 
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Ciaran said:
Think everyone under 16 gets free travel in London. Should that be means tested? After half 9 here buses are a lot cheaper due to the idea that those using them at that time will be unemployed. Should you have to produce a letter from the dole to the bus driver?

There will never be a perfect system but getting het up because someone else is getting something cheap or free is daft.
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I'm not getting het up about someone else getting free stuff...

I think the current system is ****ed and doesn't help the genuine in need in most cases .

It's abused by scum ...poor and rich
 
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I've had this arguement many times
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But it's simple

Anything that can be provided by the state , benefits , scripts , travel , should be but only to those with a genuine need.

If you have money , you should contribute more .






That goes for non chronic or potential terminal illness NHS treatment as well.
 
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pineappleupsidedown said:
I've had this arguement many times
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But it's simple

Anything that can be provided by the state , benefits , scripts , travel , should be but only to those with a genuine need.

If you have money , you should contribute more .






That goes for non chronic or potential terminal illness NHS treatment as well.
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Even if you’ve paid tax and vat your whole working life? Aye righty - o.
 
pineappleupsidedown said:
I've had this arguement many times
...

But it's simple

Anything that can be provided by the state , benefits , scripts , travel , should be but only to those with a genuine need.

If you have money , you should contribute more .






That goes for non chronic or potential terminal illness NHS treatment as well.
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You do contribute though. They call it national insurance.
 
Toby said:
But you voted for the Tories? :huh:
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I have done

I have voted labour

Every election is different for me and I vote accordingly


There is not one party I agree with in a majority

Last GE, I vote green ...

Last Scottish election, I voted green ...

Tory and labour were not viable options
 
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Ciaran said:
Why is letting people travel free nonsense? Older people have given us the society we have today with all its benefits, why what's wrong with chucking them free ****?
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60 is neither "old" nor pensionable age, it's a totally random age to be doling out free travel as most 60 year olds are in full time work. Why throw £200m down the drain when it could be better spent elsewhere?

£200m ffs, we could build a couple of hospitals for that.
 
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