'Boo me, not the players'

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originallambrettaman said:
Rosenior said: "We need to give them (fans) something to shout about for sure.

"Maybe there's one or two dissenting voices because we lost a League Cup game to Doncaster and maybe haven't signed the players' people were expecting.

"If people can, believe in me, the process and the players. Boo me, but please don't boo the players when they are trying to play as they are trying to do things the right way."

Midweek saw Doncaster stymie Hull from a tactical perspective and Wednesday could well endeavour to replicate the approach in marking the hosts outfield players man-to-match and matching them up in terms of system and sitting off them.

Rosenior says that whatever transpires, his players must work things out for themselves.

He added: "Sheffield Wednesday might press us, sit off us or go man for man. It is up to the players to make the right decisions 'in game.'

"It cannot be me or the coaches at half-time because 45 minutes have gone.

"I want them to be accountable and be free to make mistakes. I don't want them to think 'what does the gaffer want me to do in this situation.'"

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/spo...tled-fans-ahead-of-championship-derby-4252732
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Have to agree with Howden. Some odd comments there. Particularly about them not being afraid to improvise and adapt in games. Why would he need to say that unless he’s coached them to play in a very prescriptive way? And why is he now saying it now when he’s had all summer and a full pre-season with most of this squad? It gives the impression that the players and coaching staff aren’t on the same wavelength and that we’re unprepared, which absolute should not be the case.

This isn’t me nitpicking either. If he had just said after the Donny game ‘we didn’t play well at all, we are definitely better than this and I fully expect us to give a good response next game’ and left it at that, that’s fine. These comments raise more questions than give answers.

Sometimes saying nothing is better.
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Connolly had zero other interest when it came down to it. Bird we'll soon see and at no point have I or would I say that nobody would want to play for him or that nobody likes him or gets on with him etc. But from what I'm hearing from a few different places now ( and I've no way of proving it 100% ) we have struggled to attract certain players due to LR, his inexperience and perceived boring style of play

All I'm saying is the things that I was told and totally dismissed and laughed off as sour grapes etc are potentially happening here now, coincidence it may well be, but a couple of other people in here who would know, have also claimed all is not Rosey in the camp for certain reasons.
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Oh I believe you that somethings not right - it's just whether it can be put right - but there's always going to be dissent in a camp, especially when experienced players don't get a look in and 18 year old from Stockport get the nod instead, or a LB is dropped for a centre half, or existing wingers and attacking midfielders when their positions are strengthened etc.
 
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Gone For A Walk said:
Just a reminder
The main issue wasn't the result on Tuesday, nor us going out of the cup, it was the performance, the ridiculousness of what was unfolding and also the fact that Rosenior and his staff did next to **** all about it.
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Don't see what he could do during the game other than give the bench instruction from up in the stands.

We've also never seen that kind of performance with no movement or endeavour under him before.
 
Gone For A Walk said:
Just a reminder
The main issue wasn't the result on Tuesday, nor us going out of the cup, it was the performance, the ridiculousness of what was unfolding and also the fact that Rosenior and his staff did next to **** all about it.
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But its not his job to fix it..."It cannot be me or the coaches at half-time because 45 minutes have gone"
 
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TIGERSCAVE said:
So enlighten us..... just what was he trying to say....
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So if something happens unexpected or goes awry in the first half then the players simply should take initiative not wait until half time for him to 'fix it' because half the game really is half way gone by then.

That is what he was saying, not that he abdicates responsibility as you are seemingly desperate to suggest he was.
 
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Mckechnie Orange said:
So if something goes happens unexpected or goes awry in the first half then the players simply should take initiative not wait until half time for him to 'fix it' because half the game really is half way gone by then.

That is what he was saying, not that he abdicates responsibility as you are seemingly desperate to suggest he was.
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Tomorrow up and down the country, here will be 92 coaches and managers barking instructions from minute 1. Initiative...?... if he had set them up correctly, stressed the importance of the game, not only for the competition, but for revenue and giving other players a chance. Then when it was going tits at half time, did anything change... NO!!!... did his coaches make things happen...? If you dont get it, god help you...
 
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TIGERSCAVE said:
So, if they dont do that, does he sit and suck an orange at half time out does he sort the **** out and make sure the second half
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Depends if he's banned or not and allowed in the dressing room.

But he's pretty animated usually on the touchline so I assume he'd be the same when allowed in the dressing room.

Some of the vloggers commented how quiet the bench was with him not there.

There's plenty to genuinely criticise after Donny without clutching at some sort of manufactured outrage based on semantics.
 
TIGERSCAVE said:
Tomorrow up and down the country, here will be 92 coaches and managers barking instructions from minute 1. Initiative...?... if he had set them up correctly, stressed the importance of the game, not only for the competition, but for revenue and giving other players a chance. Then when it was going tits at half time, did anything change... NO!!!... did his coaches make things happen...? If you dont get it, god help you...
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I think you’ve inadvertently hit the nail on the head with your first comment about 92 managers shouting instructions from the first minute, as that was the first time LR hadn’t been on the touch line and that may well have been a major factor in how the game panned out. That seems to be what he’s referring to when he’s suggesting that the players need to take more accountability during the game.
Perhaps he’s realised that he’s put so much work into getting the players to perform in a certain way that they’ve lost the ability to think for themselves when necessary.
 
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It doesn't matter why you boo, or whether it's technically booing or just sparkling jeers. Whilst the game is on, if you're giving our players any sort of grief, you are making us less likely to win that match. The angry screaming when Ingram has got the ball, or if we give it away at times, is the worst kind. Worse than actively booing at full time, because you're throwing pressure at our players whilst they're trying to perform.

I know I said this on the other thread but I make no apology for it. It's important. Crowds who back their team win more home games. Crowds who week after week get more and more wound up at their team lose home games. It doesn't matter how justified you think it is, or what the details of the tactical situation is. Discuss that on here if you like, but screaming it at the players will only ever make it worse.
 
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PLT said:
It doesn't matter why you boo, or whether it's technically booing or just sparkling jeers. Whilst the game is on, if you're giving our players any sort of grief, you are making us less likely to win that match. The angry screaming when Ingram has got the ball, or if we give it away at times, is the worst kind. Worse than actively booing at full time, because you're throwing pressure at our players whilst they're trying to perform.

I know I said this on the other thread but I make no apology for it. It's important. Crowds who back their team win more home games. Crowds who week after week get more and more wound up at their team lose home games. It doesn't matter how justified you think it is, or what the details of the tactical situation is. Discuss that on here if you like, but screaming it at the players will only ever make it worse.
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Great band
Think I saw then supporting the Fall back in the day…
 
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Jim the Tiger said:
How does he know who people are booing?
Should we have a different style of boo for him so that the players know it's not for them?
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I suspect booing as Ingram is on the ball is probably not directed at Rosenior. He's provably referring to that sort of thing.
 
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