Transfer Rumours Barton?

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KidCanary said:
Yeah, you're right. No point in me wasting my time with a deluded fool like yourself.



The contract he rejected. As reported here, here, and here.



In Barton's case that extra year is going to be about £50k a week, plus performance bonuses. For a club that's not too rich, that's quite a lot of money. Especially for a player who'd be on the wrong side of 30, spent time in jail not too long ago, and causes a lot of controversy on and off the pitch. If he wanted to stay that much he would've signed the deal and worked on a new one a year or so down the line.
Joey Barton, professional? You're having a laugh. He's about as far from professional as you can get, and that's a large part of why I like the guy.
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Nice touch. Funny thing is, you're the one who is deluded by his love for his club, whereas i'm blinded by the truth as well as having love for the club.

Yep the contract that he wanted to stay at the football club. So you are aware of it. So which part of he wanted to stay don't you understand again. The fact the club didn't want him to stay for as long as he wanted is THEIR decision. Im not saying I would have gave him a 3 year extension either. I actually agree with that stance. However, I never would have sold him for such a measly amount. Whats the point. But what is clear is he wanted to stay at NUFC given the choice, the choice was removed by NUFC as they were not willing to meet his wishes, they then sold him. He could have stayed for another year, or 2 more years. Neither happened. Hes gone.

Oh thats right I forgot we are a league 2 club who cant afford a pot to piss in. My mistake. We cant afford to pay him a years wage, but we can afford to let a £3-£5mil player leave for free.
Yes, Joey Barton is a professional football player. You think we have Sunday league players in our team? He has a family and a future beyond football to think about. He wants his relatively short career to be sorted so he can focus on his football. Just like every other football player playing the game right now.

Get ur heads out of your biassed NUFC asses, and look at footballers and the club for what it is. As if you weren't a fan. You might get some perspective.
 
Glennyboy21 said:
I hope that this is a load of press rubbish like the rest of us but it looks likely that Joey is at least talking to QPR. I think people need to look at both sides of the argument. It's seems likely the Barton wants to stay at Newcastle but the powers above (i.e. Ashley and Co.) don't want that to happen. Probably wage related no doubt!

Joey is going to take some flack regardless of his decision whether it be to stay, leave to go to QPR or leave for any other club that comes in for him. In an ideal world he would probably want a long term contract with us. We are (despite the rumblings of some fans) moving in the right direction at least with our transfer policy, although we must splash out on a new left back and striker (but that topic has been done to death). But, if not offered a contract how can Joey stay. He could play out the season but then he is one bad injury from never getting a contract again, at least if he signs for another club (if we don't sign him up) he guarentees himself the peace of mind that he will have a career for several years!

He may love our club (if his words are to be believed) but he'd be a bloody idiot to turn down a 3/4 yr contract elsewhere on decent money when we refuse to give him any security over his future (in fact we have made it obvious that we won't offer him any long term stablity).

I, for one, hope that Ashley pulls his head out of the sand and realises that if we hold onto or best players and strengthen in areas that need strengthening then we are not far away from a solid top half team, challenging for the elusive 7th place and possible European football (I know it seems far fetched but look at the difference between the mid table clubs... it's not much)...

The frustrating life of an NUFCc fan...
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Couldn't agree more.
 
Howeynufc said:
protecting his future? hes a footballer he could retire now and still be made for life probably.
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That's not really the point or the way it works though is it. Honestly people need to get over the money these guys earn. That's football. Its like when people say "well he's only been fined £25K, whats that to him" Its the ****ing same as it is to me and you, 25 ****ing grand!!! I'm not bothered what you earn or what you're worth, £25,000 is a lot of money. And the 10m plus Barton could lose by getting a career threatening injury is a hell of a lot of money. We also don't know what committments players make in terms of their money, they may need to earn that money to keep pace with investments or other projects/businesses they've got involved in.

So yes footballers however rich have to secure their future and want to earn as much money as possible from their chosen career. Its not their fault none of us worked to make ourselves good enough to earn money from the game.
 
Warm Pouch said:
That's not really the point or the way it works though is it. Honestly people need to get over the money these guys earn. That's football. Its like when people say "well he's only been fined £25K, whats that to him" Its the ****ing same as it is to me and you, 25 ****ing grand!!! I'm not bothered what you earn or what you're worth, £25,000 is a lot of money. And the 10m plus Barton could lose by getting a career threatening injury is a hell of a lot of money. We also don't know what committments players make in terms of their money, they may need to earn that money to keep pace with investments or other projects/businesses they've got involved in.

So yes footballers however rich have to secure their future and want to earn as much money as possible from their chosen career. Its not their fault none of us worked to make ourselves good enough to earn money from the game.
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Spot on.

Some people just dont have the capabilities to look beyond and see this point entirely. All they see is the player on the pitch. They have lives, families, commitments, investments, etc etc.

Who are we to tell a professional to accept risking his financial future for the sake of pleasing them, so they can turn on him when he makes a mistake anyway?
 
tommytoonAA said:
Not going to get involved with this whole discussion, but want to point out that to the club that one year is important to the club to the tune of £50k x 52 weeks plus any bonuses.....
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Im sorry but we are NUFC we arent Notts County. We may look similar and have the same nickname but the numbers you speak aren't actually that serious to us. After all, how can we afford to release a £3-£5mil player for free if we cant even afford a years worth in wages? We would have to pay him off anyway if we just released him right now on compensation.

Michael Ashley is a billionaire who can afford to lose £1million on a casino table in 20 mins and have a laugh about it.

Dont be taken in by the penny pinching clowns.
 
This situation has been inevitable ever since he was put on the transfer list and even more so since it was stated he could leave on a free. What on earth is all the fuss about!?

Anybody with an ounce of sense would know that at some stage a club would show enough interest for talks to start. Barton will leave or he won't but will be leaving within the year anyway. We have brought in midfielders so it may be time for one of them to step up to the plate and take his place. You never know he may even be replaced with somebody good.

Personally I hope he goes. Don't like the bloke or his attitude. The earlier poster who got the out of order outburst from Tash was spot on. Overall Barton is a liability to this club. I'm looking forward to the day when I can see NUFC mentioned in the media without it being about what Barton has done next. As a player he is replacable and the club could certainly do without all the negative media baggage that he brings.
 
I agree that he would be made for life if he was to retire now, but putting yourself in his shoes (boots!), why should you finish out the season with a club that seems not to want you whilst risking an injury that could end your career when you could move elsewhere on similar money and protect your next 3//4 years income (a hefty amount in his case)... There is loyalty and love for a club but it has to end somewhere...

To post 384... I'm noew on here and didn't quote you!
 
Donkey Toon said:
This situation has been inevitable ever since he was put on the transfer list and even more so since it was stated he could leave on a free. What on earth is all the fuss about!?

Anybody with an ounce of sense would know that at some stage a club would show enough interest for talks to start. Barton will leave or he won't but will be leaving within the year anyway. We have brought in midfielders so it may be time for one of them to step up to the plate and take his place. You never know he may even be replaced with somebody good.

Personally I hope he goes. Don't like the bloke or his attitude. The earlier poster who got the out of order outburst from Tash was spot on. Overall Barton is a liability to this club. I'm looking forward to the day when I can see NUFC mentioned in the media without it being about what Barton has done next. As a player he is replacable and the club could certainly do without all the negative media baggage that he brings.
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Your support to the Ashley regime is unflappable.
 
NufcBano said:
Im sorry but we are NUFC we arent Notts County. We may look similar and have the same nickname but the numbers you speak aren't actually that serious to us. After all, how can we afford to release a £3-£5mil player for free if we cant even afford a years worth in wages? We would have to pay him off anyway if we just released him right now on compensation.

Michael Ashley is a billionaire who can afford to lose £1million on a casino table in 20 mins and have a laugh about it.

Dont be taken in by the penny pinching clowns.
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Read my following post about that being the same amount for Nolan's contract, and even more if we'd given Carroll the further contract he wanted.... Plus when we're a club making a loss that is trying to turn itself around a make a profit then all these millions that "aren't so serious to us" become pretty serious.

For the "Mike Ashley is a billionaire" argument, his worth is due to his stake in NUFC as a business, in Sports Direct as a business and his newer clothes shops.... He doesn't have £1bn+ sitting is his bank account.

I know this whole discussion has gone way off topic so to bring it back, Barton talking to clubs has been coming ever since he was put on the transfer list. I reckon he was half expecting one of the top half teams to come in for him at least hence the talk about not going unless it's for a big 4 club etc... But I can't blame him for listening to offers for all of the reasons Warm Pouch mentions above (and that I can't be arsed to write 'cos it's finally time for me to leave the office :D )
 
NufcBano said:
Your support to the Ashley regime is unflappable.
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And your ability to type so well with your head stuck so far up your arse is amazing!

Actually I judge each situation on its merits. Barton is a good footballer but as an ambassador for this club he is an embarrassment. I have felt that for longer than Ashley has given any justifiable reason to be hated by the fans.

You should try and look past your hatred of Ashley and judge things the same way. You might find it refreshing. You may also stop talking ****e so much.
 
Alfie said:
Turns out Barton has been in talks with Tony Fernandes for a few days now and it will be announced later today that Joey will be driving for Team Lotus this weekend <ok>
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<laugh>

This whole situation is a piss take (not the Lotus thing, which obviously is), Barton is crucial to our team and we've effectively released him. If he's so destabilising why is he playing games? Why is he training with the lads? Just the latest chapter in the soap opera, I'm ****ing sick of it, why can't we have a chairman with a ****ing brain cell?
 
For anybody wonering what motivates players to leave or sign new contacts or whatever - read Smudgers signiture.
 
Donkey Toon said:
And your ability to type so well with your head stuck so far up your arse is amazing!

Actually I judge each situation on its merits. Barton is a good footballer but as an ambassador for this club he is an embarrassment. I have felt that for longer than Ashley has given any justifiable reason to be hated by the fans.

You should try and look past your hatred of Ashley and judge things the same way. You might find it refreshing. You may also stop talking ****e so much.
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So do I. Losing your most influential player when he wants to stay is ridiculous.

I dont mind him being in the back pages this season. Thanks to his attitude and behaviour we have a creditable point against Arsenal. He actually behaved admirably against Scum, helped us get a win.

Chelsea stood by Terry and Cole. Man U stood by Rooney. Barton's behaviour over the past year has been brilliant. He is a different man to the one I despised for years.

I may dislike Ash a lot, I admit. But I give credit where its due.
 
Donkey Toon said:
This situation has been inevitable ever since he was put on the transfer list and even more so since it was stated he could leave on a free. What on earth is all the fuss about!?

Anybody with an ounce of sense would know that at some stage a club would show enough interest for talks to start. Barton will leave or he won't but will be leaving within the year anyway. We have brought in midfielders so it may be time for one of them to step up to the plate and take his place. You never know he may even be replaced with somebody good.

Personally I hope he goes. Don't like the bloke or his attitude. The earlier poster who got the out of order outburst from Tash was spot on. Overall Barton is a liability to this club. I'm looking forward to the day when I can see NUFC mentioned in the media without it being about what Barton has done next. As a player he is replacable and the club could certainly do without all the negative media baggage that he brings.
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THIS <ok>
 
AbsolutelyGlorious said:
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This whole situation is a piss take (not the Lotus thing, which obviously is), Barton is crucial to our team and we've effectively released him. If he's so destabilising why is he playing games? Why is he training with the lads? Just the latest chapter in the soap opera, I'm ****ing sick of it, why can't we have a chairman with a ****ing brain cell?
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Least we have F1 back this weekend, looking forward to that.
 
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