Assem Allam on meeting with supporters re name change.
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People who don't understand for some reason just don't want to believe this. A few people on here have this view of Assem as this massive genius whose planned this all in advance. It irritates me as much as anything that people can't see what a bloody buffoon he is. Even when he openly talks bullshit and embarrasses himself these people say he was doing it all on purpose to make us think he's stupid. **** me. He wants nothing more than for everyone to think he's great. The last impression he wants is for everyone to know his limitations.
Christ you're so out of touch it's unreal. Everything you post is just laughable nonsense. Remember how adamant you were that the campaigners would be gagged after their meeting?
That's exactly what he's like and it's a huge problem.
Look at what these guys say and what Allam comes out with. How can people see this and think Allam is the genius and we're all being 'played'?
Allam doesn't spend money on anything he doesn't think he needs. 'Clever legal teams' that Duffen used to pay for in your day will be one of the many things he's got rid of. Along with scouting because why would we need to do that when it's all on the internet? He's running it as a business remember.
The owner is the biggest threat to this club becoming like one of those. Mike Ashley and Ken Bates are exactly the same kind of people as Allam.
"The last thing the club needs is disgruntlement and a rift in the support." Don't you think that Allam should have thought about this before deciding on HIS unilateral course of action?
Having worked in this field for many a year I can absolutely confirm this NOT to be the case, in fact it's totally laughable to think that hedge fund managers favour investing into a company because it has a shorter name, seriously
the last four pages ofthis thread seem to have hinged on one person referring to the trading/company name as the club name and nobody arguing specifically with that.
so i will.
as far as i'm concerned, the trading/company name is currently
hull city tigers limited
and the team AND CLUB name is hull city afc
i know this to be the case because the company/trading name has LIMITED in it and
the team/CLUB name has CLUB in it.
the name before it was changed in march was THE HULL CITY ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL CLUB (TIGERS) LIMITED
not many of us chanted that at games. not with THE at the front.
before that it was called RUNGAMES LTD and i don't remember that being chanted much.
however i totally accept he wants to change the team name too.
so i will.
as far as i'm concerned, the trading/company name is currently
hull city tigers limited
and the team AND CLUB name is hull city afc
i know this to be the case because the company/trading name has LIMITED in it and
the team/CLUB name has CLUB in it.
the name before it was changed in march was THE HULL CITY ASSOCIATION FOOTBALL CLUB (TIGERS) LIMITED
not many of us chanted that at games. not with THE at the front.
before that it was called RUNGAMES LTD and i don't remember that being chanted much.
however i totally accept he wants to change the team name too.
Yes, The Doctor is the source of the problem, but if he's not going to change his tune, I think it's up to supporters to recognise that and admit defeat for the better of the club. I dislike the way the campaign has started to paint The Doctor in a bad light as if he's a snake oil salesman who will bring harm to the club. I'd like the name to remain the way it is as much as anyone, but this isn't a matter of right or wrong, it's a matter of opinion, and I wouldn't like to see the club in turmoil over tradition, which in all honesty really isn't essential. It's just a preference.
Having worked in this field for many a year I can absolutely confirm this NOT to be the case, in fact it's totally laughable to think that hedge fund managers favour investing into a company because it has a shorter name, seriously
The post referred to the paper AA had read to come up with his idea that shorter names mean a brighter future. Although the paper does refer to share dealing & not business promotion. It appears AA read no further than the first page.
The word "apparently" would suggest that the campaign group are, like you, not convinced by this suggestion.
Maybe you'd like to add another five years onto this then
Originally Posted by lewisc29 View Post
I understand what you're saying, but it's a minor matter that could and should have been avoided. Just consulting the fans would have helped. Many fans would rather stay in the championship than change 104 years of history!
I'll admit defeat after i have been defeated. Only then it won't really matter to me anymore, accept in the same way it would,if i were grieving for the loss of a loved one.
Maybe you'd like to add another five years onto this then
Originally Posted by lewisc29 View Post
I understand what you're saying, but it's a minor matter that could and should have been avoided. Just consulting the fans would have helped. Many fans would rather stay in the championship than change 104 years of history!
Yep, realise this now. 104 has just stuck with me since it was mentioned a lot in our first prem season.
The point that does not seem to be made is that if the dinosaurs at the council were to deal with the club in a fair and proper manner so that both parties could have progressed in their talks would have alleviated all this nonsense.
The club could have bought the KC at a fair price and the club could have done what they wanted to do in the first place and all this nastiness would not have been IMO necessary, some will say that AA would have then sold it all for a profit and that we would have had no ground to play in but surely covenants could have been put in place to counteract this.
I feel that the way out is to use our voice against the dinosaurs at the council instead of the man that bailed us out to the tune of £66 million pounds.
I did see that someone had come up with a plan for all to win although I can't remember who it was but OLM was going to put it to the committee, this is the sort of support we should be striving for on here instead of tearing at each other as we have been?
Plenty of users have griped about the dinosaurs at the HCC on here, surely they are the enemy not the Allams as they want the same success for the club as we do and it is about time we concentrated on ousting some of these dinosaurs at the council at the next election.
The club could have bought the KC at a fair price and the club could have done what they wanted to do in the first place and all this nastiness would not have been IMO necessary, some will say that AA would have then sold it all for a profit and that we would have had no ground to play in but surely covenants could have been put in place to counteract this.
I feel that the way out is to use our voice against the dinosaurs at the council instead of the man that bailed us out to the tune of £66 million pounds.
I did see that someone had come up with a plan for all to win although I can't remember who it was but OLM was going to put it to the committee, this is the sort of support we should be striving for on here instead of tearing at each other as we have been?
Plenty of users have griped about the dinosaurs at the HCC on here, surely they are the enemy not the Allams as they want the same success for the club as we do and it is about time we concentrated on ousting some of these dinosaurs at the council at the next election.
i really think the councillors who prefer rugby would laugh at the removal of the city bit of the name rather than be upset as the chairman intends. the chairman has shown more than once that he is capable of knee-jerk irrationality and many on here will have their doubts about what happened when talks broke down and who is to blame. if you go to negotiate you don't take the ball home at the first setback.
To be fair Gerraty did air his opinions in the HDM firstand I can see why AA says he does not like the City name. I am sure if this had been dealt with properly in the first place none of this City business would be relevant, however Gerraty is a dinosaur and a liability and should be put out to grass.
Hull City may get a lot of publicity because they are in the Premier League but in terms of business they are small. I get the impression that Allam makes the decisions and doesn't get any advice.
Why doesn't Allam realise the supporters are not going to change their tune and admit defeat?
Allam wants to be liked and if he isn't liked he will sell up eventually. The buyer will change the name back and Hull City can get on with football without distractions.
