Match Day Thread Trump v Clinton

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Will President Trump...

  • Pull it off

    Votes: 22 43.1%

  • Be impeached

    Votes: 2 3.9%

  • Be assassinated

    Votes: 14 27.5%

  • **** it up

    Votes: 13 25.5%
  • Total voters
    51
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A lot of liberals and Clinton supporters are dismissing WikiLeaks emails, saying things like Assange is a Trump supporter etc. etc.

The latest batch of leaked emails prove that Hillary Clinton is aware that the Saudi Arabian royal family, as well as other Gulf Arab monarchies, are financing the Islamic State. The Clinton Foundation have received millions of dollars from the House of Saud. The fact a US Presidential candidate is not only aware that America's allies are currently financing mass-murdering terrorist groups but she herself accepts donations from these terror-funding dictatorships is scandalous. Given the corruption surrounding Clinton and Trump's odious campaign, I genuinely think the election should have been postponed until 2017 and perhaps a re-run of the primaries.
 
All the money that goes into these bids, all the advisors, marketing teams, electricians and plumbers and all the other staff these candidates have at their back, and people think what Trump comes out with isn't deliberate and calculated?
 
Polly13 said:
Not if the government there have followed proper procedure, unlike our lot...
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Why hold a referendum if you then need to debate it in Parliament?
Are they going to vote against it in the House?
If not, why hold a debate at all?
Gina Miller and friends are wealthy people unused to being gainsaid by provincial 'uneducated' oiks. They won't want to see their fortunes affected by a decision taken by the 'little' people.
 
Spook said:
Really? Four years ago he was just a billionaire and wasn't involved in politics at all, unless he was making donations to the Democrats. He was very critical of Mitt Romney for being anti-immigrant and he encouraged Obama to make immigration reform so undocumented migrants could receive citizenship easier and quicker. It's much more likely his opinions four years ago were his true liberal colours and everything during his Presidential campaign has been a bigoted charade.

If he was truly a racist bigot, he would have kept his mouth shut in 2012, not criticise the Republicans for being too anti-immigrant. The only thing he cares about is money.
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Precisely. He's a man whose only interest has been amassing wealth. He has no morals or scruples, and politically he has simply gone whichever way the wind blows the money his way.

Now that it's about politics, rather than business, his genuinely true colours are on display.
 
Spook said:
It's not only immigration he's done a 360 on since he started his campaign. He used to be strongly in favour of abortion rights, LGBT rights, gun control (ban on assault weapons), favoured universal healthcare and even favoured higher taxes for the rich. Now he's strongly anti-abortion rights, a Second Amendment fanatic, against any form of universal healthcare, including Obamacare, and wants to lower corporation tax. He's a liberal masquerading as a conservative for Middle America's votes.
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Nah, you've got it all the wrong way round. He was a bigot, masquerading as a liberal back then. Surely you can see that? The only thing at stake back then was money. It didn't matter what stance he adopted to get it. Now it's about politics, we're seeing the real Trump, and it's ****ing vile.
 
City Man said:
Why hold a referendum if you then need to debate it in Parliament?
Are they going to vote against it in the House?
If not, why hold a debate at all?
Gina Miller and friends are wealthy people unused to being gainsaid by provincial 'uneducated' oiks. They won't want to see their fortunes affected by a decision taken by the 'little' people.
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Jesus, you've really bought into the idea that a Brexit vote was about 'The Little People', haven't you?

Suckered, like the rest of 'em.
 
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City Man said:
Why hold a referendum if you then need to debate it in Parliament?
Are they going to vote against it in the House?
If not, why hold a debate at all?
Gina Miller and friends are wealthy people unused to being gainsaid by provincial 'uneducated' oiks. They won't want to see their fortunes affected by a decision taken by the 'little' people.
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Because the stupid ****s didn't think for one minute the country would be even more stupid and vote to leave, that's why.
 
Polly13 said:
Because the stupid ****s didn't think for one minute the country would be even more stupid and vote to leave, that's why.
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Gina Miller and friends want this debated/executed by Parliament rather implemented by Teresa May on the back of the referendum.
So what does she think the outcome of the Parliamentary debate will be? That they'll turn over the will of the people?
It's a desperate ploy by some offshore fund manager and friends that's been rubberstamped by 3 pro Europe judges, and welcomed by 'grumpy Remoaners'.
 
Polly13 said:
Jesus, you've really bought into the idea that a Brexit vote was about 'The Little People', haven't you?

Suckered, like the rest of 'em.
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It was about getting out of the corrupt centralist elitist BENT EU which has not had its accounts signed off for many, many years because no reputable accountancy firm will do it, and whose Brussels parliament has slowly usurped our own laws and rulings.
Dod we have a referendum on that back in 1975? Did we ****?
Yours,
A Little Person
 
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City Man said:
Gina Miller and friends want this debated/executed by Parliament rather implemented by Teresa May on the back of the referendum.
So what does she think the outcome of the Parliamentary debate will be? That they'll turn over the will of the people?
It's a desperate ploy by some offshore fund manager and friends that's been rubberstamped by 3 pro Europe judges, and welcomed by 'grumpy Remoaners'.
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If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.
 
Polly13 said:
If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.
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Same as ever! The Toffs hoodwinked people like you into voting for them by telling them they were acting in your best interests! Muppets!
 
In my view, brexit and Trump have already succeeded in highlighting the fact that a lot of people have woken up and don't buy in to the bias and bullshit churned out.
It was a shot at the social justice warriors as much as the 'establishment'.
 
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Polly13 said:
Nah, you've got it all the wrong way round. He was a bigot, masquerading as a liberal back then. Surely you can see that? The only thing at stake back then was money. It didn't matter what stance he adopted to get it. Now it's about politics, we're seeing the real Trump, and it's ****ing vile.
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No.
 
Polly13 said:
If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.
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Believe it or not, Polly, not everyone who voted to leave the EU supports Farage or the Tories.
 
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If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

HOW ABOUT THAT THE REMAIN PEOPLE IN THE TORY PARTY OR THE OPPOSITION CHALLENGED THE PROCESS RATHER THAN WEALTHY EXPAT BUSINESS FOLK DOING SO?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.
WHICH TORIES ARE THESE THEN? THE GAY MARRIAGE PARTY WHO RESEMBLE NEW LABOUR IN ALL BUT NAME? PLENTY OF REMAIN PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THE TORY PARTY, PROBABLY HOPING TO GET ON THE STRASBOURG GRAVY TRAIN LIKE KINNOCCHIO AND LEON BRITTAN DID.
ISN'T IT ODD HOW MOST OF THE LABOUR VOTING AREAS OF THE COUNTRY VOTED BREXIT ? WERE THEY ALL REALLY SUCKERED?

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.
**** FARAGE, HE''S NO DIFFERENT FROM BARONESS SHAKRABARTI AND DIANE ABBOTT WITH HER SON AT BOARDING SCHOOL. THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH AND BELONG TO THE SAME POLITICAL CLASS OF "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
 
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Spook said:
Believe it or not, Polly, not everyone who voted to leave the EU supports Farage or the Tories.
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I'm aware of this, but I believe they were manipulated by an overwhelmingly right wing lobby - over many years - to vote this way. They might not be Farage supporters or Tories, but it's irrelevant; in the end, they danced to their tune.
 
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City Man said:
If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

HOW ABOUT THAT THE REMAIN PEOPLE IN THE TORY PARTY OR THE OPPOSITION CHALLENGED THE PROCESS RATHER THAN WEALTHY EXPAT BUSINESS FOLK DOING SO?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.
WHICH TORIES ARE THESE THEN? THE GAY MARRIAGE PARTY WHO RESEMBLE NEW LABOUR IN ALL BUT NAME? PLENTY OF REMAIN PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THE TORY PARTY, PROBABLY HOPING TO GET ON THE STRASBOURG GRAVY TRAIN LIKE KINNOCCHIO AND LEON BRITTAN DID.
ISN'T IT ODD HOW MOST OF THE LABOUR VOTING AREAS OF THE COUNTRY VOTED BREXIT ? WERE THEY ALL REALLY SUCKERED?

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.
**** FARAGE, HE''S NO DIFFERENT FROM BARONESS SHAKRABARTI AND DIANE ABBOTT WITH HER SON AT BOARDING SCHOOL. THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH AND BELONG TO THE SAME POLITICAL CLASS OF "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"
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You know, for a minute I thought you were EGD/Blampey. Was just waiting for you to mention 'diseased semen'...
 
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