Match Day Thread Trump v Clinton

A lot of liberals and Clinton supporters are dismissing WikiLeaks emails, saying things like Assange is a Trump supporter etc. etc.

The latest batch of leaked emails prove that Hillary Clinton is aware that the Saudi Arabian royal family, as well as other Gulf Arab monarchies, are financing the Islamic State. The Clinton Foundation have received millions of dollars from the House of Saud. The fact a US Presidential candidate is not only aware that America's allies are currently financing mass-murdering terrorist groups but she herself accepts donations from these terror-funding dictatorships is scandalous. Given the corruption surrounding Clinton and Trump's odious campaign, I genuinely think the election should have been postponed until 2017 and perhaps a re-run of the primaries.

 

All the money that goes into these bids, all the advisors, marketing teams, electricians and plumbers and all the other staff these candidates have at their back, and people think what Trump comes out with isn't deliberate and calculated?

 

Why hold a referendum if you then need to debate it in Parliament?
Are they going to vote against it in the House?
If not, why hold a debate at all?
Gina Miller and friends are wealthy people unused to being gainsaid by provincial 'uneducated' oiks. They won't want to see their fortunes affected by a decision taken by the 'little' people.

 

Precisely. He's a man whose only interest has been amassing wealth. He has no morals or scruples, and politically he has simply gone whichever way the wind blows the money his way.

Now that it's about politics, rather than business, his genuinely true colours are on display.

 

Nah, you've got it all the wrong way round. He was a bigot, masquerading as a liberal back then. Surely you can see that? The only thing at stake back then was money. It didn't matter what stance he adopted to get it. Now it's about politics, we're seeing the real Trump, and it's ****ing vile.

 

Jesus, you've really bought into the idea that a Brexit vote was about 'The Little People', haven't you?

Suckered, like the rest of 'em.

 

Because the stupid ****s didn't think for one minute the country would be even more stupid and vote to leave, that's why.

 

Gina Miller and friends want this debated/executed by Parliament rather implemented by Teresa May on the back of the referendum.
So what does she think the outcome of the Parliamentary debate will be? That they'll turn over the will of the people?
It's a desperate ploy by some offshore fund manager and friends that's been rubberstamped by 3 pro Europe judges, and welcomed by 'grumpy Remoaners'.

 

It was about getting out of the corrupt centralist elitist BENT EU which has not had its accounts signed off for many, many years because no reputable accountancy firm will do it, and whose Brussels parliament has slowly usurped our own laws and rulings.
Dod we have a referendum on that back in 1975? Did we ****?
Yours,
A Little Person

 

If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.

 

Same as ever! The Toffs hoodwinked people like you into voting for them by telling them they were acting in your best interests! Muppets!

 

In my view, brexit and Trump have already succeeded in highlighting the fact that a lot of people have woken up and don't buy in to the bias and bullshit churned out.
It was a shot at the social justice warriors as much as the 'establishment'.

 

No.

 

Are you talking to yourself?

 

Believe it or not, Polly, not everyone who voted to leave the EU supports Farage or the Tories.

 

If the government haven't followed proper legal procedure - and it's pretty clear that they haven't - then what the hell do you expect?

HOW ABOUT THAT THE REMAIN PEOPLE IN THE TORY PARTY OR THE OPPOSITION CHALLENGED THE PROCESS RATHER THAN WEALTHY EXPAT BUSINESS FOLK DOING SO?

The bottom line is that you thought you were voting as one of The Little People, but Brexit was a Tory-led notion, and you effectively voted for them. You've only got yerselves to blame.
WHICH TORIES ARE THESE THEN? THE GAY MARRIAGE PARTY WHO RESEMBLE NEW LABOUR IN ALL BUT NAME? PLENTY OF REMAIN PEOPLE AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL IN THE TORY PARTY, PROBABLY HOPING TO GET ON THE STRASBOURG GRAVY TRAIN LIKE KINNOCCHIO AND LEON BRITTAN DID.
ISN'T IT ODD HOW MOST OF THE LABOUR VOTING AREAS OF THE COUNTRY VOTED BREXIT ? WERE THEY ALL REALLY SUCKERED?

Farage. Anti-establishment. Don't make me laugh. Finance ****er son of another City finance ****er, privileged ****er. And you fell for it.
**** FARAGE, HE''S NO DIFFERENT FROM BARONESS SHAKRABARTI AND DIANE ABBOTT WITH HER SON AT BOARDING SCHOOL. THESE PEOPLE ARE ALL CUT FROM THE SAME CLOTH AND BELONG TO THE SAME POLITICAL CLASS OF "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO"

 

No, just adding summat to my comment. Should've used Edit, but whatever...

 

I'm aware of this, but I believe they were manipulated by an overwhelmingly right wing lobby - over many years - to vote this way. They might not be Farage supporters or Tories, but it's irrelevant; in the end, they danced to their tune.

 

I honestly can't believe you think Trump is a 'liberal' at heart! Everything else you post is intelligent!

 

You know, for a minute I thought you were EGD/Blampey. Was just waiting for you to mention 'diseased semen'...