err you might wish to consider your view of peoples "worth" if you are going to throw terms like "mong" around considering that to a disabled person will be viewed in the same way as a member of our Pakistani community would view "Paki"
Yeah I said a bit earlier in thread that he doesn't quite have the set of attributes one would normally associate with a party leader but he does have integrity and speaks very well. He's a politician I've got a lot of time for and did even before the EU referendum stuff. He's very open about being part of the establishment and not having the same experiences as others less fortunate but he's also very down to earth, listens to people and does his best to be a good MP. There is a video of him somewhere being asked the price of bread and milk etc and he gets them all pretty much correct. He's well worth some YouTube time Although you're right I'm not sure everyone would be able to see past his posh voice and incredible use of the English language.
You know full well that I'm not referring to disabled people. Calling someone paki is quite clearly a derogitory term aimed directly at Pakistanis.
where the **** do you think the derogatory term "mong" comes from it is in essence identical to "Paki" a shortened version of a normal word which has become an insult . I have to say on all the boards on this forum it is normal to see disablist language used regularly and no-one blinks an eyelid yet i see no difference from demeaning language aimed at people because of their racial identity
The difference is that I wasn't aiming it at disabled people was I? Can you think of any common occurence you know where the term paki can be said to someone who isn't pakistani? That's the difference. It can only be used for one purpose or intent. I was going to say Shut It You Slag, but I was worried you might claim I'm being highly offensive to women lol. Give over Spanish!
TBF that is why it became a derogatory name, thick people were calling all "Asian looking" people paki's and still do.
Let's chill the language guys. Obviously an emotive subject and been good debate for 100 pages, no need to get carried away with things
easily almost anyone from the same region of Asia is likely to be called Paki . Lets get this straight you thought calling people "mong" was an insult i.e. they were to be considered like people considered people with downs syndrome years ago so yes i still stand by the "there is no difference"
No I ****ing didn't It wasn't even in my thoughts, in fact I'd even forgotten that was where it had originated. I called them mongs because they are bloody clueless morons. You stand where you like, but I'd get off that high horse if I were you, before you fall off.
Provided we both don't see clueless morons as being synonymous with being disabled, neither of us has anything to worry about. EDIT: Ok I won't use that term again, let's move on!
ok done **** i hope the season starts soon cos this off season is doing everyone's head in sooner we can get back to bitching about managers players FIFA agents blind linesman Manc refs the better i'm off for a drink some codeine and bit of FIFA
Weeell, now you mention it...... Almost all of those words - moron, cretin, imbecile, even idiot and dunce, have their origins in quite specific descriptions of various levels of intellectual disability. It's a minefield. Just call them a load of pricks - can probably still get away with that one for a while.
