An empty SOL for WBA?

[Smug in Boots]

The teams in mid table are much closer to the bottom than the top in terms of quality and squad size, all could hit a bad patch and go into free fall, and usually one does.

When you look at the clubs in the lower leagues it makes you wonder where we could be now.
Some of them have recently played in Europe, won league titles, FA & European Cups etc.

Portsmouth, Forest, Wigan, Blackburn, Middlesbrough, Ipswich, Norwich have all done more than us in recent years.

We could currently be Coventry of Sheff Utd .............

 

[J๏E..]

When you look at the clubs in the lower leagues it makes you wonder where we could be now.
Some of them have recently played in Europe, won league titles, FA & European Cups etc.

Portsmouth, Forest, Wigan, Blackburn, Middlesbrough, Ipswich, Norwich have all done more than us in recent years.

We could currently be Coventry of Sheff Utd .............

All them clubs have had their fingers bit by dreams of the big screen. I do beleive Gibson's Boro and Ipswich have got it right and will come up strong next season. They have managers, both totally different in styles who say it like it is. Unfortunately for my club IMO we have the Uruguayan version of Souness, a man trying to come over a lot more intelligent than he is..

 

[Smug in Boots]

All them clubs have had their fingers bit by dreams of the big screen. I do beleive Gibson's Boro and Ipswich have got it right and will come up strong next season. They have managers, both totally different in styles who say it like it is. Unfortunately for my club IMO we have the Uruguayan version of Souness .......... a man trying to come over a lot more intelligent than he is..

Me and you both recognise that problem marra

 

[J๏E..]

Me and you both recognise that problem marra

Me and you both recognise that problem marra

Exactly and it always makes me wonder how much these managers banter amongst themselves to arm themselves with the barrage of excuses. Poyet's fans statements are almost like Bruce's if you take away 'Geordie Bastard'. With Poyet IMO we have a man that was good at football, was good supporting Denis Wise (Who the ****s he) but has shown his inabilities at managing a Premier League club. We may as well as Mark Lawrenson in the dressing room, these boys sing from the same hymn sheet, great footballers but ****e without the shorts.

 

[Makemstine Roger]

Missing the point smug, I'm well aware the numbers we get are incredible. I, you, all of us shell out plenty of cash to follow them. Our away supporters are fantastic. The home crowd not so.

The atmosphere last night and in the second half v Hull was poisonous, threatening and completely counter productive. Howling at a misplaced pass is not going to make that player or any others play better. He's going to go into his shell and take the careful option. The opponents sense it and it makes them feel ten feet tall.

bollocks mate where in this world would you pay the money you do to watch ****e, no commitment and 15 year old footy. i want commitment tracking back and busting a gut to get in the box for a chance of a goal

 

[Billy Death]

bollocks mate where in this world would you pay the money you do to watch ****e, no commitment and 15 year old footy. i want commitment tracking back and busting a gut to get in the box for a chance of a goal

Spot on for me like.

 

[MrRAWhite]

Jesus Begora...Anyone reading these posts would think we had been world beaters in the recent past..We are currently in our longest spell of top flight football since the 1950's and have been a hell of a lot worse than we are now. Supporting Sunderland has never been about supporting a top class side that wins everything, but has always been about supporting what and who we are...These days people seem to want to sit quietly on their collective arses waiting to be entertained...

 

[E.T. Fairfax]

Jesus Begora...Anyone reading these posts would think we had been world beaters in the recent past..We are currently in our longest spell of top flight football since the 1950's and have been a hell of a lot worse than we are now. Supporting Sunderland has never been about supporting a top class side that wins everything, but has always been about supporting what and who we are...These days people seem to want to sit quietly on their collective arses waiting to be entertained...

i agree! however i have never felt more downbeat, disheartened and disillusioned supporting sunderland than i have done at times over the past 3-4 seasons. that includes record low points and div.3 football! there are many reasons for this ranging from the fact i am getting older and having more important things to worry about to the fact my club, and others, are being represented by mercenaries whose passion is generally so far from the passion generated by the majority of the supporters! at times I just feel it is difficult to get as excited over people i have got no respect for anymore. Dont get me wrong, i still love football, but i hate it as well. i still care due to the passion i had for it in my younger days which has spilled over into my adulthood. However like a drug i cant just drop it even whilst knowing it disagrees with me, although at times i wish i could!

 

[Billy Death]

The thing is with me is that there's been little or no progress over the years.
I mean ffs, I'm not asking for champions league or owt - a boring mid table would do me.
Jesus ****ing Christ. Is that too much to ask?

 

[Class of 73]

Jesus Begora...Anyone reading these posts would think we had been world beaters in the recent past..We are currently in our longest spell of top flight football since the 1950's and have been a hell of a lot worse than we are now. Supporting Sunderland has never been about supporting a top class side that wins everything, but has always been about supporting what and who we are...These days people seem to want to sit quietly on their collective arses waiting to be entertained...

40,000+ sat in their seats shaking their heads in quiet disbelief that QPR could come to the SoL and take all 3-points. This when QPR had lost their last 11 away games, (not won away since May 14) had only scored 6-goals away from home all season, had lost their manager AND lost their main playmaker!! THIS after Hull FFS.

Yes, we would dearly like to be entertained............not blamed.

 

[MrRAWhite]

40,000+ sat in their seats shaking their heads in quiet disbelief that QPR could come to the SoL and take all 3-points. This when QPR had lost their last 11 away games, (not won away since May 14) had only scored 6-goals away from home all season, had lost their manager AND lost their main playmaker!! THIS after Hull FFS.

Yes, we would dearly like to be entertained............not blamed.

Our crowd were on players backs from the word go, and some of them looked like frightened rabbits because of it. It was no coincidence that we played far better in the 2nd half when our crowd decided to be supportive...

 

[Billy Death]

Our crowd were on players backs from the word go, and some of them looked like frightened rabbits because of it. It was no coincidence that we played far better in the 2nd half when our crowd decided to be supportive...

If they're frightened rabbits then they need ****ing off, the soft twats.

 

[Brian Storm]

FFS lads can't we agree that there's faults on all sides? We don't help, the players are pussys and Gus is losing the ****ing plot!

 

[The Ultimate Mackem]

Our crowd were on players backs from the word go, and some of them looked like frightened rabbits because of it. It was no coincidence that we played far better in the 2nd half when our crowd decided to be supportive...

The crowd got behind them because they had a go. It's not ****ing rocket science. You come out with some **** pal.

Sunderland don't want entertainment, all we want is some ****ing passion and have a go at teams. ****ing simple.

 

[MrRAWhite]

The crowd got behind them because they had a go. It's not ****ing rocket science. You come out with some **** pal.

Sunderland don't want entertainment, all we want is some ****ing passion and have a go at teams. ****ing simple.

Coming from the master of utter ****e I should take this as a compliment....I saw the team play better once the crowd started being supportive and not the other way round..

 

[Brian Storm]

Well I think it was Alvarez who gave us the lift personally. I think both the response both from players and the crowd was a direct result of that substitution. Alvarez instantly gave us balance and with PVA on the opposite side they an extra dimension to our attack which was none existent in the first half. It's like both us and the players thought, right, now we can get down to business.

 

[Billy Death]

If I went to a gig & I thought the band were ****e should I shout, sing, clap & cheer?

 

[Class of 73]

Our crowd were on players backs from the word go, and some of them looked like frightened rabbits because of it. It was no coincidence that we played far better in the 2nd half when our crowd decided to be supportive...

LOL! FFS. Then get a better team talk, a better captain, man up and get on with what they are paid (very well) to do. Or go and do something else for a living.
I am not suggesting it is easy but passion and a bit of fire in their bellies would go a long way to motivating the crowd. Blaming the support starts a painful rift that is very difficult to heal, as is proving. I cannot get to the games now, but If I had spend my wages travelling long distances to see a game I would fekin be a touch annoyed with any suggestion of it being the problem when players START so poorly against an extremely poor team. That blame goes squarely with the manager, team selection, tactics and fekin motivation

 

[MrRAWhite]

LOL! FFS. Then get a better team talk, a better captain, man up and get on with what they are paid (very well) to do. Or go and do something else for a living.
I am not suggesting it is easy but passion and a bit of fire in their bellies would go a long way to motivating the crowd. Blaming the support starts a painful rift that is very difficult to heal, as is proving. I cannot get to the games now, but If I had spend my wages travelling long distances to see a game I would fekin be a touch annoyed with any suggestion of it being the problem when players START so poorly against an extremely poor team. That blame goes squarely with the manager, team selection, tactics and fekin motivation

I'm not disputing that Poyet has got his team selection and tactics wrong on a number of occasions, including last Tuesday night. However, to suggest that players should still be able to perform to the best of their ability when their own supporters are on their backs is just wrong. Ronaldo would struggle to perform if his own supporters were booing him..

 

[MrRAWhite]

Well I think it was Alvarez who gave us the lift personally. I think both the response both from players and the crowd was a direct result of that substitution. Alvarez instantly gave us balance and with PVA on the opposite side they an extra dimension to our attack which was none existent in the first half. It's like both us and the players thought, right, now we can get down to business.

That was definitely a positive..