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Gerrez said:
But to make it as a professional footballer, a player must have confidence in their own ability. That confidence usually is larger than their actual ability, almost an arrogance if you like. I'd question a player not believing they're good enough to join such teams. Sure, as outsiders we can look in a see that a player is unlikely to achieve anything from certain transfers but the player must believe they can reach the top. Only way they can truly test themselves is by joining the top sides.

I'm not arguing that these young players are doing the correct thing, they clearly aren't. but i think its more a case of the people advising them are wrong rather than the actual player. Of course, the main person advising them is their agent and we all know what their interests are.
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Some people think the only motivation in life is money, but it's only one factor. It's not as though they'd be ****ing paupers playing for a mid-table team, and having that quality playing regularly further down the league could only improve it.
As you say, agents are largely responsible for the money chasing, and young, impressionable players are star-struck when they look in the mirror.
 
saintanton said:
Some people think the only motivation in life is money, but it's only one factor. It's not as though they'd be ****ing paupers playing for a mid-table team, and having that quality playing regularly further down the league could only improve it.
As you say, agents are largely responsible for the money chasing, and young, impressionable players are star-struck when they look in the mirror.
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I don't agree with the 'only interested in money' argument either. Obviously, that is the case for some players but not all. I think most players think about their careers first and money second but I don't think many would chose a club for one or the other, it must be both in most cases.

It annoyed me when I heard it said for the likes of K.Toure, S.Nasri and G.Clichy when leaving Arseanl to join Man City. Arsenal hadn't won anything for a while and didn't really look like doing so any time soon either. Fair enough, you could say Man City hadn't won anything either but they were clearly going places and it was only a matter of time before they did win. The fact that got more money in the process was just a bonus IMO.

There are without doubt some very silly and ill advised players out there though. Rodwell, Sinclair and SWP being perfects examples.
 
Gerrez said:
I don't agree with the 'only interested in money' argument either. Obviously, that is the case for some players but not all. I think most players think about their careers first and money second but I don't think many would chose a club for one or the other, it must be both in most cases.

It annoyed me when I heard it said for the likes of K.Toure, S.Nasri and G.Clichy when leaving Arseanl to join Man City. Arsenal hadn't won anything for a while and didn't really look like doing so any time soon either. Fair enough, you could say Man City hadn't won anything either but they were clearly going places and it was only a matter of time before they did win. The fact that got more money in the process was just a bonus IMO.

There are without doubt some very silly and ill advised players out there though. Rodwell, Sinclair and SWP being perfects examples.
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I did say "some" people.
I'm also thinking about young players who've had limited experience but have obvious talent, thinking they're ready for the big time when they'd be better served all round by staying and playing at a slightly lower level.
Kolo and Clichy had already played 6 or 7 seven years at Arsenal level so could be forgiven in thinking it was time for a move.
 
saintanton said:
I did say "some" people.
I'm also thinking about young players who've had limited experience but have obvious talent, thinking they're ready for the big time when they'd be better served all round by staying and playing at a slightly lower level.
Kolo and Clichy had already played 6 or 7 seven years at Arsenal level so could be forgiven in thinking it was time for a move.
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The players I listed were all young when they made the "crazy" move too. Plus one of them was recently criticised publicly by 'Arry for refusing to move from QPR because of money reasons.
 
Gerrez said:
Burnley striker Danny Ings, 22, has rejected a move to Real Sociedad because he wants to sign for Liverpool in the summer. (Daily Mirror)

Liverpool are set to agree a £5m deal in the next few weeks to sign Ings in the summer, as long as the Premier League agrees to the move. (Independent)


If true...

Five million quid!!!! FIVE MILLION!!! He's out of contract for gods sake. They'd only get about £300k from Real Sociedad, if we let it go to compensation it wouldn't cost that much either. We're the worst club in the at negotiating!
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Look the guy is under 24 so it goes to a tribunal. That's just it so if the trubunal price might be 4 or 6 mil for example it kind of makes sense to agree it now privately
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Look the guy is under 24 so it goes to a tribunal. That's just it so if the trubunal price might be 4 or 6 mil for example it kind of makes sense to agree it now privately
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I know (and indicated as much in the post you quoted) but the tribunal fee wouldn't be as much as £5m!
 
Gerrez said:
I'm no mathematician but doesn't 12 + + 8 + 1 = 21...:huh:
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Yes but no

I excluded his spores be for villa recently in my own mind as it is a new loan that signals him moving on maybe

He played 12 for city and 8 for west brom so for the period for his city career until this move it is 20

You could of course have used your super powers to have read my mind and seen this is what my obtuse point was in saying 20
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
Yes but no

I excluded his spores be for villa recently in my own mind as it is a new loan that signals him moving on maybe

He played 12 for city and 8 for west brom so for the period for his city career until this move it is 20

You could of course have used your super powers to have read my mind and seen this is what my obtuse point was in saying 20
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Or you could have just said it didn't include Villa <ok>
 
Manchester City are weighing up a move for Burnley striker Danny Ings, 22, who will be out-of-contract in the summer. (Manchester Evening News)

oh [lease let this be true. this is the ideal test for the gobshite. if he signs there he's career is over for the cash so we don't want a plaer like that. it'd be hard enough for him to get into our team v coutinho, sterling, sturridge right? so go there and he might get a loan by 26 and 3/4 games... city just want a warm body with a HG tag... thats all.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Manchester City are weighing up a move for Burnley striker Danny Ings, 22, who will be out-of-contract in the summer. (Manchester Evening News)

oh [lease let this be true. this is the ideal test for the gobshite. if he signs there he's career is over for the cash so we don't want a plaer like that. it'd be hard enough for him to get into our team v coutinho, sterling, sturridge right? so go there and he might get a loan by 26 and 3/4 games... city just want a warm body with a HG tag... thats all.
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Did you have a few too many last night...?
 
Today's links:
Ings
Ignacio Camacho
Jackson Martinez


Everton want Cleverley on a free <laugh>
 
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