No surprise.

[Sunbeam-Tiger]

Cityswall;7132577]The nimby's have been out in force in E.Yorkshire looking at the vote results today.

Maybe HCC should start charging folks who have a HU postcode that is outside the HCC boundary for visits to the museum quarter etc, after all they don't want to be part of Hull so why should they receive the Benifits of being from Hull.

If my memory serves me right HCC have tried in the past to charge people from outside the Hull area to visit the museum's
and quite recently they also started checking post codes at there rubish tips to stop ER folk from using them

 

[steverico]

Why does Brady target the perceived wealthy suberbs some 15 miles from Hull but ignores the best one Beverley a mere 6 miles away, what's wrong with Skirlaugh, Sproatley, Thorngumbald, Burstwick and many more villages much closer to Hull than Elloughton?

I will tell you why, Council Tax, that's all Hull wants, the money that the wealthier suburbs will bring, and when all that money is taken from the East Riding, what happens to the rest of the East Riding residents, like Withernsea and Goole, who as far as I can see are already much worse off than Hull.

Brady is a **** who cares not a jot for anyone beyond his little empire and if he can screw over the East Riding he will. I was born in Hull and I am proud of it but The Labour Council has kept it in the dark ages for decades, and don't go on about Siemans, the ABP have borrowed millions to get them on Alex dock, the government are subsidizing them for billions through energy grants.

 

[TheCasual]

Why didn't the people in Hull get a referendum on the East Riding joining Hull?

Seriously if a merge is in the best interest of the area it should be done.

It was obvious the results of referendum.

 

[steverico]

Cityswall;7132577]The nimby's have been out in force in E.Yorkshire looking at the vote results today.

Maybe HCC should start charging folks who have a HU postcode that is outside the HCC boundary for visits to the museum quarter etc, after all they don't want to be part of Hull so why should they receive the Benifits of being from Hull.

If my memory serves me right HCC have tried in the past to charge people from outside the Hull area to visit the museum's
and quite recently they also started checking post codes at there rubish tips to stop ER folk from using them

Ah yes another good reason for us not to join Hull, the bin nazis, oh look a crisp packet in the blue bin, right a £100 fine your bin not emptied for a year, and your name in the hall of shame.

 

[Kempton]

You stupid boy, how s**t would the attendance have been on Saturday if East Riding residents never turned up, I would guess half the crowd live outside Hull.

How many millions commute into London every day?

"Half the crowd live outside Hull". Does it ? Sigh.... Go on then let's hear it. How did you thunk this ?

 

[steverico]

"Half the crowd live outside Hull". Does it ? Sigh.... Go on then let's hear it. How did you thunk this ?

I have two theories, one, cash, us East Riding residents are considerably more wealthy than yow, therefore more of us attend the KC than the benefit seeking population of Hull.

Two, did you see how many left the KC on Saturday, obviously leaving early to get home to ER safety before the above benefit seekers mug them.

Or three, someone mentioned a few months ago on here that a very large percentage of season pass holders lived out side Hull, so probably not half but a lot

 

[Kempton]

I have two theories, one, cash, us East Riding residents are considerably more wealthy than yow, therefore more of us attend the KC than the benefit seeking population of Hull.

Two, did you see how many left the KC on Saturday, obviously leaving early to get home to ER safety before the above benefit seekers mug them.

Or three, someone mentioned a few months ago on here that a very large percentage of season pass holders lived out side Hull, so probably not half but a lot

Ffs mods. Just ban me. Ban the **** out of me

 

[Polly13]

No course not.



No one suggested it was...stop being so sensitive. Fact is, HCC *is* made up of and massively influenced by Old Labour. Tbh that isn't the actual problem, the problem is the specific Old Labour types are seen as a massive problem because of the way they manage their portfolios. You might not agree with that, but it *is* how they are seen.



You mean like Humberside?

Not really. "Humberside" is a far more difficult entity to quantify than an urban concentration like the one that is centred on Hull.

 

[Polly13]

Why does Brady target the perceived wealthy suberbs some 15 miles from Hull but ignores the best one Beverley a mere 6 miles away, what's wrong with Skirlaugh, Sproatley, Thorngumbald, Burstwick and many more villages much closer to Hull than Elloughton?

I will tell you why, Council Tax, that's all Hull wants, the money that the wealthier suburbs will bring, and when all that money is taken from the East Riding, what happens to the rest of the East Riding residents, like Withernsea and Goole, who as far as I can see are already much worse off than Hull.

Brady is a **** who cares not a jot for anyone beyond his little empire and if he can screw over the East Riding he will. I was born in Hull and I am proud of it but The Labour Council has kept it in the dark ages for decades, and don't go on about Siemans, the ABP have borrowed millions to get them on Alex dock, the government are subsidizing them for billions through energy grants.

None of these are actually suburbs.

 

[Polly13]

I have two theories, one, cash, us East Riding residents are considerably more wealthy than yow, therefore more of us attend the KC than the benefit seeking population of Hull.

Two, did you see how many left the KC on Saturday, obviously leaving early to get home to ER safety before the above benefit seekers mug them.

Or three, someone mentioned a few months ago on here that a very large percentage of season pass holders lived out side Hull, so probably not half but a lot

I mean, seriously?

 

[BernsteinTiger]

Why does Brady target the perceived wealthy suberbs some 15 miles from Hull but ignores the best one Beverley a mere 6 miles away, what's wrong with Skirlaugh, Sproatley, Thorngumbald, Burstwick and many more villages much closer to Hull than Elloughton?

I will tell you why, Council Tax, that's all Hull wants, the money that the wealthier suburbs will bring, and when all that money is taken from the East Riding, what happens to the rest of the East Riding residents, like Withernsea and Goole, who as far as I can see are already much worse off than Hull.

Brady is a **** who cares not a jot for anyone beyond his little empire and if he can screw over the East Riding he will. I was born in Hull and I am proud of it but The Labour Council has kept it in the dark ages for decades, and don't go on about Siemans, the ABP have borrowed millions to get them on Alex dock, the government are subsidizing them for billions through energy grants.

Sorry, but this is just rubbish.

You make it sound like Russia annexing Crimea.

What little Empire? The current council has only held a majority since 2011, prior to that it was Carl Minns in charge.

If the Hull CC Boundaries were expanded, the biggest individual loser would be Brady himself. That many Tory and Lib Dems would make his task of keeping a Labour majority an uphill struggle - especially if Labour were to win nationally next year, which traditionally results in a fall back of Labour support at a local level. Expanding the boundaries would help prevent 20 years plus of a single party dominating. Is the ER better? Parnaby has been in place for 18 years!

Someone summed it up earlier when they said that the ER residents feel that HCC is the only council worse than their. Fair enough. But that's hardly a ringing endorsement of the status quo, is it? An alteration would shake up both councils, which can only be good for the whole area.

I think the areas linked are mentioned by the report DMD posted earlier - I believe that Beverley is not included but Elloughton is due to it being part of Hull's "Drive to work" area. They were not chosen at random.

As for saying that Hull just want the council tax - as opposed to who? It's all England out there. Why is Hull not deserving of the tax of it's own suburbs any more than say Leeds, Sheffield or Manchester? It would have to be spend right back on the area anyway councils are not posting surpluses

 

[Polly13]

Sorry, but this is just rubbish.

You make it sound like Russia annexing Crimea.

What little Empire? The current council has only held a majority since 2011, prior to that it was Carl Minns in charge.

If the Hull CC Boundaries were expanded, the biggest individual loser would be Brady himself. That many Tory and Lib Dems would make his task of keeping a Labour majority an uphill struggle - especially if Labour were to win nationally next year, which traditionally results in a fall back of Labour support at a local level. Expanding the boundaries would help prevent 20 years plus of a single party dominating. Is the ER better? Parnaby has been in place for 18 years!

Someone summed it up earlier when they said that the ER residents feel that HCC is the only council worse than their. Fair enough. But that's hardly a ringing endorsement of the status quo, is it? An alteration would shake up both councils, which can only be good for the whole area.

I think the areas linked are mentioned by the report DMD posted earlier - I believe that Beverley is not included but Elloughton is due to it being part of Hull's "Drive to work" area. They were not chosen at random.

As for saying that Hull just want the council tax - as opposed to who? It's all England out there. Why is Hull not deserving of the tax of it's own suburbs any more than say Leeds, Sheffield or Manchester? It would have to be spend right back on the area anyway councils are not posting surpluses

That's so unfair on Steverico, who spent almost twelve seconds constructing his argument, only for you to ****e all over it.

 

[steverico]

I mean, seriously?

Irony is a wonderful thing

 

[Polly13]

Irony is a wonderful thing

Right. Apologies for getting the wrong end of a stick or summat.

 

[Spook]

Sorry, but this is just rubbish.

You make it sound like Russia annexing Crimea.

What little Empire? The current council has only held a majority since 2011, prior to that it was Carl Minns in charge.

If the Hull CC Boundaries were expanded, the biggest individual loser would be Brady himself. That many Tory and Lib Dems would make his task of keeping a Labour majority an uphill struggle - especially if Labour were to win nationally next year, which traditionally results in a fall back of Labour support at a local level. Expanding the boundaries would help prevent 20 years plus of a single party dominating. Is the ER better? Parnaby has been in place for 18 years!

Someone summed it up earlier when they said that the ER residents feel that HCC is the only council worse than their. Fair enough. But that's hardly a ringing endorsement of the status quo, is it? An alteration would shake up both councils, which can only be good for the whole area.

I think the areas linked are mentioned by the report DMD posted earlier - I believe that Beverley is not included but Elloughton is due to it being part of Hull's "Drive to work" area. They were not chosen at random.

As for saying that Hull just want the council tax - as opposed to who? It's all England out there. Why is Hull not deserving of the tax of it's own suburbs any more than say Leeds, Sheffield or Manchester? It would have to be spend right back on the area anyway councils are not posting surpluses

The big difference is that the Crimeans wanted to be annexed by Russia.

Seriously though, I think the UK needs properly federalising first before anything happens to the boundaries. I wouldn't object to some of the suburbs becoming part of Hull if they wanted to.

 

[steverico]

I'm not going to go in the I am right your wrong argument, but if Hull cherry picks all the wealthiest suburbs, that money is lost to the East Riding, what happens to the very poor parts of of the ER if a huge percentage of income has gone?

Brady has gone about this the wrong way, what we need is a metropolitan area rather than a larger Hull, I would be in favour of that, The Hull and East Riding Metropolitan area, like it used to be

 

[Polly13]

Brady? What did he have to do with it?

 

[steverico]

Right. Apologies for getting the wrong end of a stick or summat.

No worries just my little attempt at a joke, I do like a good discussion now and then

 

[Polly13]

I'm not going to go in the I am right your wrong argument, but if Hull cherry picks all the wealthiest suburbs, that money is lost to the East Riding, what happens to the very poor parts of of the ER if a huge percentage of income has gone?

Brady has gone about this the wrong way, what we need is a metropolitan area rather than a larger Hull, I would be in favour of that, The Hull and East Riding Metropolitan area, like it used to be

They get to experience some of the ****e we've had for years

 

[steverico]

They get to experience some of the ****e we've had for years

True I suppose, but Withernsea has been shat on by the ER council for long enough, as has Goole and a few other remoter areas, all the money seems to be spent in Beverley, Brid and the likes of Swanland, and the places Hull wants, I live in Thorngumbald and **** all gets spent here, they redid half the paths two years ago, the rest are like crazy paving, ran out of money when I asked. next thing they are building a cycle path from Beverley through Tickton to Leven and has anyone seen a cyclist using it?