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Dan said:
A woman named Sian used to live in the flat below me. She was pretty hot. Go Sian!
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I snogged a really attractive girl called Sian at university.

Which was nice.

But she later killed herself, which was less so.

I don't think the two incidents were linked.
 
I watched as a mate of mine(when I was 11) climb a telegraph pole and hit his head on the wooden struct fell and died. Just to add to the topic. <ok>
 
Jesus.

I have a suicide story too but I'm not going to tell it because it's Friday and Friday should be a happy day.
 
I haven't known any people to commit suicide but today I taught my dog a new trick, he can squeak his dog toy on command now. It's pretty adorable.
 
Dan said:
I haven't known any people to commit suicide but today I taught my dog a new trick, he can squeak his dog toy on command now. It's pretty adorable.
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My cat sits and rolls over when told. <laugh>
 
I'd much rather have a bear that waves on command.

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Downthe36 said:
To get yourself an advantage? The jobs market for graduates is so fiercely competitive that anything you can do to get yourself noticed must be worth a shot.

A friend of mine did unpaid work for Virgin Media when he left Uni, at a level where they simply would not have taken the risk on employing an unknown quantity. Within a few months they took him on a permanent contract earning close to 100k a year. He could have applied for that job 1000 times over and he would never have got it, why would they risk it when they could employ someone with experience. Sure, he could have been less ambitious and taken a job at a lower level, but instead he put himself out for a few months and has saved himself probably years of having to climb the ladder. Okay, it might not work out this well for everyone, but if you truly have talent you want to showcase then it is worth thinking about.
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that is a VERY rare case. it is the same with apprenticeships, they take you on with the promise of this and that after so many months and years. then at the end, there is nothing there for you. its just an easy way for corporations to have free/cheap labour. not being funny but I deserve to be paid for honest work! I have rent to pay! im not 16 anymore.
 
fatletiss said:
That's a little blinkered Jen. The suggestion I was trying to make was that if graduates were struggling to get a job, a suggestion was to find companies in the line of work you want to be in and if they had no current vacancies, why not ask them if there was anything they could offer you to gain experience. If there is and to under take it for a short period if time, it may lead to them seeing what you can offer first hand and then a job offer. It shows willing and initiative, two things that could impress an employer. This could be happening while still applying for jobs. It's called being proactive.

It would be a gamble, but one I've seen people do and end up with a job.

I didn't have a pop at anyone or suggest anyone deserves not to get paid.
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I understand :)

just at the age of 21 or older with rent etc to pay why should we have to work for free just because there are too many people and not enough jobs? ive worked hard at my school career for 17 years! not to mention the fact that at 21 my parents were already married. what if you want to get married and have children after you leave uni or you already have some, you cant just work for free and really, you shouldn't have to. that should all be done whilst you are at school/college/uni.

its very rare that you get given this gold plated contract after a few months of working somewhere free. its just a way to rip off the little people. if you are doing work, you deserve to be paid for it.
 
jenthesaint1990 said:
that is a VERY rare case. it is the same with apprenticeships, they take you on with the promise of this and that after so many months and years. then at the end, there is nothing there for you. its just an easy way for corporations to have free/cheap labour. not being funny but I deserve to be paid for honest work! I have rent to pay! im not 16 anymore.
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I've got a full time job at the moment but I'm looking to do some voluntary work as a graduate at weekends/evenings. It will be ****ing hard work but the end results will be worth it (hopefully).

Jen, what you need to understand is long gone are the days where you can get a degree and just walk into a graduate job. You are competing against dozens of other graduates, maybe hundreds and you need to make sure you stand out otherwise your CV will be tossed aside.
 
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