there is no child benefit cap it is the 2 child benefit cap which helpfully has **** all to do with CHB
i know theres the the benefit for you get for having kids which is not that much. but yea talking about the cap on benefits for having more than 2 children Looking forward to funding the kids of people who can't afford them. Benefits for all
Can only speak from my own experience... but we settled on 2 kids (eldest daughter was with ex-wife) partly because of finances ... even with both of us working ... would have loved more kids but we couldn't realistically afford it ... in essence we had to balance our 'income' against the expenses of household and raising our kids through to adulthood... Certainly doesn't feel 'fair' that some families can ignore their actual income in such economics ... because they will get additional funds from the government for every child they cough out ... Just my view of course, but for me limiting our offspring to what we could / can afford.. just seems part and parcel of responsible parenting ...
Listening to Politics Live where, presumably, a Labour politician is pontificating that 'this is about the children' in relation to the lifting of the 2 child cap ... What bollocks - it's more about the parents - have as many kids as you like, no problem - provided you are not looking to the state (the taxpayer) to finance their upbringing ...
no it's to do with means tested benefits The policy, introduced by Conservative chancellor George Osborne, means parents can only claim universal credit or tax credits for their first two children. It appliesto third or subsequent children born after 6 April 2017.
While I agree absolutely with your rational here, my thinking is but it's the child that suffers, a child that didn't ask to be brought into this world, a child that is not to blame for the ways of its parents...a child that if taken into care would cost the state far more money than any benefit. Taking all of the above in mind, so what do we do then, when the child is not getting fed properly, prosecute the parents, could do but that will also cost the state again. We know parents are using foodbanks, something that never existed when I was young, you just went hungry. I'm open to all thinking on this topic, but sometimes words on the internet are easier than reality. I suppose the underlying thing here is setting standards in life, absolutely along the lines you have stated, I think this is where free school meals come in, it was my life saver as a kid. Also with the size of foodbanks now and their regularity of use, what research has been done into these environments, to establish why people are there, because unless we have the correct data, we can't fix it. It feels to me and maybe I'm wrong, but it feels like they've been normalised (foodbanks), how can that happen in a caring society. Lots in there and I wouldn't even know where to begin to resolve the problems, but I feel like all of us are qualified on life experiences, but until we rid ourselves of whatever is deemed child poverty, then we can only all down our heads in shame.
Cheers mate, genuinely never knew that's what it was about, I wrongly assumed it was Child Benefit allowance, I only twigged when I saw the abbreviation you gave of CHB.
I do - via various charities ... and also by having paid tax from 1984 until now into the system - and having never taken anything out ... ... but having to cough up £600 per month for the youngest's Uni rent as the Government funding doesn't cover it (due to my working salary - no savings) ... I'm not overly sympathetic to anyone not prepared to put a shift in and manage their own child upbringing responsibilities...
Mate - in reality I'd try and help ANY kid in difficulty - I'm a bit of a soft touch in that regard ... rarely do a shop without putting the odd item into the food banks - only basic stuff but it does lift my mood just to do it ... For me there is a duality - kids should never be punished - but the support needs to be managed in a way that guarantees that any money does go to the kids- and in a healthy way...
I heard this 6-7 yesterday (kids eh lol), only because Keir Starmer used it and it featured on the news. I had to google what that bollocks was all about. Genuinely had never heard the term before.
I would like to think that everyone of us on here would help a child in need. Wasn't judging you mate, just adding some realism to the words. I've not got the answers, so it's certainly not for me to judge anyone, I think we all just show our caring side in the words that we share. I saw a couple on the tv the other day, saying how difficult things were, but sadly looking at them did not express a good image... I think BWood would probably be more blunt than me, and it would involve exercise and weight loss. So I get they are struggling with a child, but they are not exactly the best example of health, and at what point does that get mentioned and with the bluntness it probably requires (for the childs sake as well as theirs) due to some other observations I'd made.
of course you have taken out from the state or did you not claim CHB , have none of you and your family used the NHS , did your kids go to private school etc
