Off Topic US General Election

Aside from a rather weird deep dive into my podcasts ratings, it's been quite restrained. But I suppose there's always one bad seed.

 

You've obviously been listening to John Swinney's opinion too much...

 

Good for you, matey. Thanks for your contribution.

 

I just genuinely think usa has problems with a female president
But the democrats havent had a good candidate for years now

Usa has a massive amount of misogny (bad spelling) in some of its cultures

 

The USA full stop hasn't

 

Disagree

 

I wanted the Donald to win against Hilary
I really didn’t see him winning this one so well done to him
I really don’t think he will be that radical he wasn’t last time
My concern was and is the nutcases in general in America.
But I certainly don’t think he will do anything mental he’s just told them whatever they wanted to hear to be elected. And done it better than Harris

 

I think the UK Labour party are a good example of how you can win. Starmer gets stick from all over the spectrum, but he and the party identified that whatever the rights and wrongs of it, the policies and rhetoric they were running on previously weren't winning votes. It was too easy to be mocked and simply couldn't compete against populism on the other side. So they adopted a much more pragmatic stance in order to become electable and it worked. Whether their policies are now better or worse is totally subjective, but they got in. Some of their rhetoric is dumbed down to compete with the populism of their opponents, an example being the "1p off a pint" they proudly announced recently. But it works.

 

Who would you say was a good candidate?

 

Chazz he'll be a lot more radical this time for that exact reason. He can't get re-elected, he has nothing to lose this time. Last time he wanted to get through to a second term, as well as being quite restricted by civil servants. Take a look at Project 2025 if you want some idea of what is in store for the US.

 

At most
Therell be a % swing up or down on growth in economies
And lots of inane stuff in between

Its def overblown

 

If he has all those billions why was he in court for inflating his worth to get a bank loan?

 

You realise Roe v Wade was repealed in the US off the back of Trump stacking the Supreme Court and he'll have the opportunity to cement a super majority in this term? They'll wind back Obamacare which will have a direct impact on the elderly and infirm.

 

The labour party won because people wanted the Tories out. Just look at how badly keirs approval rating has dropped when people realised what they were actually getting

 

Im talking effects in europe

What happens in usa is mostly irrelevant
Without being ignorant

 

You mean the court cases where said banks have said they were happy with the figures and happy to loan him the money etc

 

Certainly ****ed up their honeymoon period didn’t they
Going at the elderly
****ing idiots

 

Then what were you referring to as being 'overblown' when the majority of the discussion is the impact Trump will have on the US?

He will have a direct impact on Europe though considering he'll allow Putin free reign.

 

Stuff about withdrawing from nato that ive seen and allowing russia to do whatever
The impact on uk economy will be miniscule i think

Obviously domestic usa stuff is probably bad, but doesnt affect me

 

"Bent judges/prosectuors" - Evidence or you're lying.

"conviction timed for the election" - the US election cycle is 18 months long, there's always politics, pointless to claim it was to stop him trying when there's no law against felons running for office.

"they were all bollocks" - they weren't, he was found guilty by a jury selected by both the prosecution and the defence.

"Who was the victim in the fraud case?" The banks and people he defrauded by inflating the price of his properties to get loans he wasn't entitled to, derp.

"Property worth $60m was only worth $18m - that'd be just after the huge property market bubble burst right? Couldn't imagine why property was much less valuable then.

"Why don't you list what his real issues are?" I did. The point you're so beautifully making for me is that people like yourself don't actually see them as issues, you think it's all a conspiracy against him.

"Kangaroo court" - actual court, with actual legal ramifications in a legal case undertaken by legal professionals. If that had been Biden, Raskin or Buttigeig in the dock, you wouldn't have blinked twice would you?

"He was never an epstein customer" - well then, you'll have more willingness to open the Epstien files than Trump apparently does, then we'll know. Because despite what Trump says, we know they were friends, we know that they attended parties together, people have come forward (which you'll no doubt belittle as women trying to make money off him) and said he abused them. And even if he isn't, it's stunning that the line his fanbase take is "well, he hasn't ****ed a kid", as if that's the limit they're willing to go to in order to excuse his behaviour. If there is actually a list that proves whoever is on it is guilty of CSE, then whoever is on it, no matter their politics, religion or humanitarian efforts should never taste freedom again. I'm guessing if Trump is on it, you'll say exactly what Trump will, that it's fake news.

Ask yourself this, did you want the Republicans to win because of their values, or did you just want Trump to win because he's a poor diddums? The ****er's a billionaire ****bag who lies easier than he blinks, it isn't difficult to dislike him but is difficult to work out what exactly it is that people think he's so amazing at, because with any other person the bad points would instantly outweigh anything good.

A little bit of me is glad he won, because I think the only way people are going to see the problem is to experience it for themselves and they're quickly going to realise that the Democrats, trans people and people from Latin America weren't the source of their gripes.