Off Topic US General Election

Before it closes, enjoyed the thread, mostly civil and respectful again like the UK General Election one was, don't be afraid of occasional political debate. Now Tigers!

 

Not sure about full of gangsters sure there are some like everywhere and they can make life difficult, but there are millions of people who just want to get on in life, get a reasonable job, find a partner, get somewhere to live and do normal things.

 

And the reason the Democrats didn’t do any of those whilst they were in power was…? Talking in opposition about doing things is easy. What you do when you get into were is another thing. As Labour are demonstrating.

 

Stock market growth is doing well as well, but not as well as it was under trump, gas prices are still higher then under trump....we all know the reasons why but it was something trump could latch on to

 

Can we extend the 12pm deadline...my flights been delayed haha

 

Maybe,now she's got nothing to do with her time.She can get her backside over here and fix the 'price gauging' that goes on in this Country?It's one of the few things that resonated with me throughout her whole campaign.

We are hostages to the big hitters on our high streets who,and let's be brutally honest about this,have realistically doubled the price of our most basic of needs over the last 5 or 6 years? Our Governments repeatedly waffle on about bringing people out of poverty yet are complicit by closing their eyes at the biggest root cause...Greed!!

Maybe some day we'll get a political party who actually gives a **** and works with us instead of against us but I fear that's too much of an ask,certainly in my life time.


Edit...Just to add what others have said,good thread kept reasonably civil

 

there is a real mafia problem in Ukraine - you only have to see the huge houses along the Dneiper River in Kyiv to see where money is being spent - I'm a big supporter of Ukraine but not lets pretend they're without fault - there's a lot of bad stuff going on - I had to get one of my staff out of there at very short notice - I told him to go to his hotel, pack and get to the airport - he was chasing undelivered sunflower husk to be used as biomass in a UK power station - he started treading on the wrong toes and was left in a vulnerable position in the middle of sunflower fields in the middle of nowhere - 15 years ago now but worrying at the time

 

People can dance around it all they like but the fact she was a woman of colour played a big part.

 

Ah sunflowers the black gold. I was involved in harvesting them on the other side of the border, one of the harvester drivers got shot,(the other bloke had a bigger gun and was faster on the draw) for harvesting someone else's sunflowers.

 

Or they can use it as a reason to hide behind instead of actually looking at the real reasons they lost, By such a high margin in the end, people voted in a person of colour before and I have absolutely no doubt they will again when the right candidate is there, male or female

 

Apparently 64% of Native Americans voted Trump, which is bigger share than any other ethnic group. Only 55% of Whites voted for him.

 

A big part might be overstating it, anyone that wouldn’t vote for on those grounds was never going to vote democrat anyway.

 

What are the reasons then, pray tell?

From where I stand it seems like Biden's support of Israel disenfranchised pro-Palestinian voters, and her ethnicity and gender did the rest (Trump did much better with white men and women, and older white men, while Harris did better in other demographics). As OLM pointed out, the issue wasn't the economy, so what was it?

 

Anyone who wouldn't vote just because she's a woman of colour almost certainly wouldn't be voting democrat anyway so its a poor excuse

 

I suspect some would have voted for Biden. And to clarify I'm not suggesting those people voted Trump, I'm suggesting they didn't vote. What was voter turnout in the end compared to 2020?

 

See above.

 

The economy was a huge part of it. I spend a lot of time in the USA for work, we do approx $80m worth of business a year there and trust me, the economy played a huge part for most Americans

 

I'm not sure we'll get the full turn out numbers for a while yet

 

I find that hard to believe with inflation down, unemployment down, and growth over the last few years. Fuel prices alone aren't moving the dial.