Match Day Thread Hull City v Middlesbrough

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It’s pointless looking at the loss without player sales isn’t it?

Player sales are our best way of making money.

Yeah I think Maguire likes using that bigger figure because the headline looks much crazier if he can say 'This club is losing 400k a week!!!' when that's not the reality.

I find it a bit strange that player purchases (via amortisation i.e. the amount we've paid for a player spread out over their contract) is included in our operating loss (which contributed to that 400k) but not player sales (which brings it down to 100k).
 
FFP on average allows you to lose £13m per annum, (£39m over 3 years) so if these figures are correct, and I think they are very much guess work, then there will have to be player sales to balance the books, or this 400k weekly figure is off the mark.

Kieran Maguire also stated our losses after sales are still well below the championship average to June this year.

We lost something like 13m in the last 2 years of a reporting period which allows us to lose 39m over 3.

Burnsy is talking about operational losses.

He doesn't seem to realise that's the modern day norm for ambitious clubs without parachute players.

Crazy, yes but we're far from alone.
 
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Hopefully the funding structure changes in summer. The league just isn't sustainable currently.
Absolutely not. If Acun is putting anywhere north of 200k a week in then someone at the EFL should be asking questions. It wont end well. And that applies to all clubs who are in similar situations.
 
Mcvities man will hopefully get more involved.

I heard (at the snooker club) the sponsorship was going to ramp up over the coming years.
 
Absolutely not. If Acun is putting anywhere north of 200k a week in then someone at the EFL should be asking questions. It wont end well. And that applies to all clubs who are in similar situations.

It's not just Acun. The likes of Preston and all the clubs around us invest the max allowed also.

We're just catching up to what other clubs have been doing for years.it's just novel to us after many years of Ehab.
 
He isn't and he's still under probation, so the EFL know how much he's putting in.

If we're running a 20.5m operating deficit like last year, then without player sales he'll have to put it in this year. And that'll max out the ffp headroom for the rolling 3 years, if the last sets of accounts are anything to go by.
 
If we're running a 20.5m operating deficit like last year, then without player sales he'll have to put it in this year. And that'll max out the ffp headroom for the rolling 3 years, if the last sets of accounts are anything to go by.

Aren't we all resigned to a player sale or two already?
 
Aren't we all resigned to a player sale or two already?

Yeah, but doesn't it have to be before July to count for this year's ffp or something?

If so he could well be having to put in close to the max permissible for the current reporting period to June this year.

There's ifs and buts, but i wouldn't confidently rule out that potential scenario.
 
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Because the operating loss is where that 400k a week figure comes from. While it's factual it's not the full picture. We actually lost 5.2m in the year after taking into account the sale of KLP. Additional 400k of course referring to the fact that's the loss, meaning income less expenditure.

That loss also isn't a cash loss. It's not Acun writing a cheque each week for 100k.

There's an FFP thread though which might be more relevant for this..

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That loss also isn't a cash loss. It's not Acun writing a cheque each week for 100k.
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