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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Hudson92, Mar 24, 2023.

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  1. dansafcman

    dansafcman Well-Known Member

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    Are you on the wind up? <laugh>

    They can't sack him until found guilty, without leaving themselves open wrongful dismissal claims if the opposite happens

    They can't play him while under investigation for such a serious allegation, because if he's then found guilty it doesn't look good on the club

    He's basically in limbo until the verdict. Club can't do anything but what they've done

    Now stop looking for an argument ya wum
     
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  2. Montysoptician

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    Diamond will have been charged under the clubs internal disciplinary procedures and then that process immediately halted pending the outcome of the police investigation/legal proceedings. He is suspended because the allegations, if proven are a dismissible offence.

    If he is found not guilty in a court of law, the clubs internal disciplinary procedures will then recommence, he could be found not guilty in a criminal case in court but guilty by the club because of the lesser burden of proof required.

    The level of proof required for a criminal conviction is “beyond all reasonable doubt”, in all other cases the burden of proof is “the balance of probability”
     
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  3. TonyG

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    This is a different feller. Kurt Zouma of West Ham.

    Kicking a cat across a room on camera.

    I'm a firm believer of that you can tell a lot of about person by how they treat animals …
     
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  4. The Professor

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    I think Standfield had questions put to him, Birmingham have to appear his choice....but far to much of a coincidence were close on Ukraine lad & he goes there, to me, we let Fulham know were not interested any more & its deal done for him. Hold up eas Mitrovic wasn't it? Still there far as i know
     
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  5. Nozs’ Hat

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    Which animals? I put a mouse trap in my garage to catch the buggers like.
     
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  6. TonyG

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    If ya have to ask ya a wrangun:emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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  7. Nacho

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    Correct on all points I reckon. Apart from segway.
     
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  8. OLAITAN

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    Southampton are selling Tella for £20 mil. Wonder who they replace him with. They haven’t seem to spend much money so far considering how much money they’ve brought in from player sales.
     
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  9. JHmackem

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    Hopefully won’t test our resolve for Roberts. Would imagine they’d not go for Clarke based on the cost but Roberts would be significantly cheaper.
     
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  10. John Wick

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    Southampton had the "black box" about 12 years ago, new who they wanted for there next 3 managers, sold one player, cheap better replacement came in, copy paste repeat. I wouldn't be surprised if he looked into what and how they were doing it.
     
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    Hes not very good tho is he
     
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  12. John Wick

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    always been the case.
     
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  13. John Wick

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    Oz's fake funeral was there aswell.
     
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  14. John Wick

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    He's a massive fan of Cadburys world. They gave him a 12 month pass,apparently that was the clincher.
     
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  15. OLAITAN

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    I know this unpopular but if I had to lose a first team player, my reluctant first pick would be Roberts. Unbelievable touch and dribbling but doesn’t get enough goal contributions for me. I think he’s one that if he stays and works with the coaches he could be a late developer and become a PL player.
     
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  16. Smug in Boots

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    Friday night 11.39pm - <cheers>

    I'd have thought it was pretty obvious I was playing devil's advocate and suggesting various scenarios. It's a valid question, on a transfer thread, because he's taking a wage that may be eating into the transfer budget.

    Now, do you have any transfer news or are you just here for an argument <laugh>
     
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  17. Nads

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    See, he’d be the last I’d sell.

    His stats were lowered by giving the ball to Amad, I’d love to know his ‘pass to assist’ or ‘key pass’ stats.

    Little between him and Jacky for me, both superb, but Jacks more direct and runs it more, so is more eye catching. I think Roberts will shoot more without Amad so we will see, reckon their stats be very similar
     
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    Roberts' finishing is what lets him down. Improve that and he's a PL player all day long
     
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  19. Nads

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    Aye but there’s the odd game, like Reading away, when he nails it. It’s in there somewhere.

    Sometimes wish he’d be more like Jack and just smash it.
     
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  20. Bigmackem

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    Just depends whether he is suspended on pay or not , think it would be up to the club .
     
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