U18's and U21's for season 2022/3

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Strtikes me that if Citys model was a Brentfordesque one... then the hierarchy are making a complete horlicks of it... or am I wrong...?
 
Steven Toast said:
Precisely, the overfamiliar approach creates a "mates" environment, if you don't have boundaries, you don't have control and it gets messy very quickly, I've seen it happen before.

What Sellars lacks is experience in the modern game; Dawson could speak for days about coming to City in the bottom division, playing against the likes of Ronaldo and Rooney, scoring a long range free kick against Everton and helping out with youngsters like KLP and Batty. Sellars can hardly recreate that experience with 14 games at Harrogate ****ing Railway can he?
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Sounds like a **** show! Maybe something for Meyler to work his way up to?
 
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Steven Toast said:
No, Beale left in 2020. He was promoted after Pennock left for the first team. This was before Acun.

So, the story goes that a photo emerged on social media of Beale with a man who looked like his partner. It got ugly after that, as Jon had kept his sexuality quiet and never mentioned it. After his father died, he came out as gay (his father was very relgious apparently and when he told him, they fell out big time). Beale moved home when his Dad threatened to tell City's management (insinuating that City's owners being Egyptian wouldn't stand for it) and got a job coaching Swansea Ladies (see the pattern?). When his dad died, Beale gave a big **** you to his dad and came out anyway. City didn't really do much to support him when they were informed by Jon, which made it sound like he wasn't wanted (and he took that to mean that they felt like his dad had suggested).

He's now the manager of Swansea's youth set up and the manager of the first team at Swansea University (who play in the second tier of the Welsh League, or at least they did until they were relegated). I'm told he's very happy.
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I always wondered what was the reason he left, when I was living at home I would go to most Ủ23 games, and also chatted with him at City games in the lounge. I always found him a very likeable guy and willing to chat about how the u23 etc were doing. Pity really as he was doing a good job.
 
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Chazz Rheinhold said:
Not sure what to think about this info tbh
Is this sellars bringing in the vaughans and covils who go straight into the first team almost, is he saying the academy lads aren’t good enough cos surely it’s still rosenior or shotas decision to promote them ??
It’s poor pastoral care if they aren’t supporting Jarvis etc with a new club
I don’t know anything about other lads only what my scarb supporting mate tells me
And johno greening was on the phone constantly to try and get Jarvis back and nothing doing from city. So basically he’s been kicking his heels
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So what should happen (and I assume does) is that Rosie will come and watch U23s training occasionally and liase with Sellars or Naylor on a weekly basis for updates, as often recovering players feature for the U23s and he will want to know how things are going.

Sellars doesn't scout the players, I believe Richard Naylor sorts out the recruitment for the U23s side, I don't think Sellars has any say or anything to do with transfers for them unless they're playing for the opposition and he literally sees them.

Rosenior will be the one to promote youth players based on their progression and ability, but he'll do so based on staff recommendations. Jarvis' face doesn't fit, hence why he's not been given an opportunity (that's not down to Rosenior).

Some players are being supported and help being given to find them new clubs, Chadwick did get some, but a lot of others aren't.
 
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I hope, really do hope ST that the club DO actually read here sometimes as some of the things you have revealed might not be known. It happens all too often in Management... This cannot be the way that the owners want the club to be run surely... ?
 
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Steven Toast said:
So what should happen (and I assume does) is that Rosie will come and watch U23s training occasionally and liase with Sellars or Naylor on a weekly basis for updates, as often recovering players feature for the U23s and he will want to know how things are going.

Sellars doesn't scout the players, I believe Richard Naylor sorts out the recruitment for the U23s side, I don't think Sellars has any say or anything to do with transfers for them unless they're playing for the opposition and he literally sees them.

Rosenior will be the one to promote youth players based on their progression and ability, but he'll do so based on staff recommendations. Jarvis' face doesn't fit, hence why he's not been given an opportunity (that's not down to Rosenior).

Some players are being supported and help being given to find them new clubs, Chadwick did get some, but a lot of others aren't.
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Did you hear the murmur of Chadwick being refused to have his insurance paid for after his injury resulting in moves to higher levels not being able to go through?
 
Tigerboy98 said:
Sounds like a **** show! Maybe something for Meyler to work his way up to?
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Absolutely, our academy is filled with former players with bags of experience; Naylor had over 400 career appearances in the Premier League and EFL, Jock Anderson (U18s manager) played for Morton, Livingston, Bristol Rovers and of course City, Neil Sullivan (academy goalkeeping coach) played over 500 professional games and had 28 caps for Scotland, Billy Clark (U18s Assistant manager) played over 450 professional games and David Meyler who played close to 200 games in his career, most of them for City.

There is a good mixture of non-players and former players, it's just Sellars that seems to be a bit of a sticking point with the lads. The other staff members are spoken about very highly.
 
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TIGERSCAVE said:
I hope, really do hope ST that the club DO actually read here sometimes as some of the things you have revealed might not be known. It happens all too often in Management... This cannot be the way that the owners want the club to be run surely... ?
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I think they're aware of it, but it would only be fair to give him a chance to pull it round and change his mentality. He's obviously doing something right to keep his job, but I suppose at the end of the day players do have the power.

I know the HDM read on here and there was a time in the past when Bielby used to have a look, but I have no idea now.
 
Steven Toast said:
I think they're aware of it, but it would only be fair to give him a chance to pull it round and change his mentality. He's obviously doing something right to keep his job, but I suppose at the end of the day players do have the power.

I know the HDM read on here and there was a time in the past when Bielby used to have a look, but I have no idea now.
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Explains a lot about Baz <laugh>
 
I was hopeful Nick Barmby may be brought in to help the development of our youngsters, I thought I'd seen somewhere that when Acun took over Barmby was being welcomed back to the fold, or am I imagining it ?
 
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Blaknamberblood said:
I was hopeful Nick Barmby may be brought in to help the development of our youngsters, I thought I'd seen somewhere that when Acun took over Barmby was being welcomed back to the fold, or am I imagining it ?
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Maybe as a club ambassador, not a coach. He’s a pretty poor coach tbh.
 
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