Match Day Thread Saints v Toon EFL Cup S/F first leg, Tuesday 24th Jan, ko 20.00

[Le Tissier's Laces]

Just got home. A few points after a game with quite a few positives

- Diallo excellent
- oh my, we have a player in Alcaraz, we really do
- Orsic nowhere near just yet. Looked totally off the pace.
- Alcaraz
- Mara looked a real player today. Was very surprised when he was taken off for Che Long. Felt like a pre-planned substitution.
- The people booing Beddy can do one. He was actually very vocal when he came on, and looked every inch a leader. He was also first one over to applaud all the fans at the end. He knows he has a bit of making up to do, and he’s started in the right way.
- Alcaraz
- as Libby said, the road barriers on the way out were pointless, stupid, and dangerous.
- Alcaraz
- Newcastle really remind me of George Graham’s Arsenal. Really well organised and physically dominant, and buggers to play against. Howe has done an excellent job.
- Alcaraz

 

[ChilcoSaint]

Just got home. A few points after a game with quite a few positives

- Diallo excellent
- oh my, we have a player in Alcaraz, we really do
- Orsic nowhere near just yet. Looked totally off the pace.
- Alcaraz
- Mara looked a real player today. Was very surprised when he was taken off for Che Long. Felt like a pre-planned substitution.
- The people booing Beddy can do one. He was actually very vocal when he came on, and looked every inch a leader. He was also first one over to applaud all the fans at the end. He knows he has a bit of making up to do, and he’s started in the right way.
- Alcaraz
- as Libby said, the road barriers on the way out were pointless, stupid, and dangerous.
- Alcaraz
- Newcastle really remind me of George Graham’s Arsenal. Really well organised and physically dominant, and buggers to play against. Howe has done an excellent job.
- Alcaraz

I just got in too. Nightmare journey, road closures all over the ****ing place and freezing fog as a bonus. Nothing to add to Laces’ post except I think Alcaraz did rather well.

By the way, that’s Alcaraz.

 

[hotbovril]

Well now, without getting too far ahead of myself, Alcaraz would seem to be the absolute shizzle. Oh how I've missed seeing an actual technician trying to get the ball forward, at pace, at every opportunity. Please let that performance be a harbinger of what is to come.

 

[Libby]

Guessing Newcastle will have some players missing next week seeing as about 4 of them died in the first half.

 

[Libby]

Dare I say it btw, but I think we'd have done far better last night if Mo had played rather than Orsic...

Can definitely see why Jones has been reluctant to start him.

 

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Just got home. A few points after a game with quite a few positives

- Diallo excellent
- oh my, we have a player in Alcaraz, we really do
- Orsic nowhere near just yet. Looked totally off the pace.
- Alcaraz
- Mara looked a real player today. Was very surprised when he was taken off for Che Long. Felt like a pre-planned substitution.
- The people booing Beddy can do one. He was actually very vocal when he came on, and looked every inch a leader. He was also first one over to applaud all the fans at the end. He knows he has a bit of making up to do, and he’s started in the right way.
- Alcaraz
- as Libby said, the road barriers on the way out were pointless, stupid, and dangerous.
- Alcaraz
- Newcastle really remind me of George Graham’s Arsenal. Really well organised and physically dominant, and buggers to play against. Howe has done an excellent job.
- Alcaraz

i agree with all this. Alcaraz is some player but Diallo (until the last few minutes before he was subbed) was a monster in midfield.

Adam Armstrong was also hungry and made so much happen when he came on!

 

[SaintinNZ]

Dare I say it btw, but I think we'd have done far better last night if Mo had played rather than Orsic...

Can definitely see why Jones has been reluctant to start him.

A bit of time needed to settle in and find his rhythm?

 

[tomw24]

Dare I say it btw, but I think we'd have done far better last night if Mo had played rather than Orsic...

Can definitely see why Jones has been reluctant to start him.

Yeah, I owe Jones an apology on that one.

 

[Libby]

A bit of time needed to settle in and find his rhythm?

Yeah for sure but he was miles off the pace last night and was a big part of why we were constantly getting murdered down our left.

 

[RSS]

Was there a problem with the turnstiles tonight btw? They had one of the exits open and were letting people in using hand scanners, seemed a bit odd.

Also, what's with the barriers for the chapel car park being left down after the match?

****ing ridiculous and could easily cause crowd issues seeing as there were no stewards managing the flow of people.

If you're talking about the barrier thats by the corner between the Chapen and the Kingsland heading into that little industrial estate, they've been closing it all season. No idea why, it just creates a bottleneck for no reason.

 

[Libby]

If you're talking about the barrier thats by the corner between the Chapen and the Kingsland heading into that little industrial estate, they've been closing it all season. No idea why, it just creates a bottleneck for no reason.

Nah this was the opposite chapel corner, to get from car park onto Britannia Road. Sounds like a deliberate tactic then. Don't really understand why though? Seems completely unnecessary.

Plus if you're going to do that you HAVE to be putting stewards there to control the flow, otherwise you get people pushing and shoving behind because they can't see the obstacle ahead. Basic ****ing **** ffs.

People having to climb over/through a gate is pathetic and shouldn't have to happen. Club really are amateurish in every department at the moment.

 

[garysfc]

Pluses:
Good, battling performance with some flashes of quality. If we’d played like that vs Villa, we wouldn’t have lost.
1-0 HT. We’ve still got a chance.
Alcarez looks a gem.

Minuses:
Too many players who just haven’t got the quality at this level.
Early days but Orsic looked poor.
Che so out of form, no confidence.

Shout out to the ref for the first half, time wasting booking. Consistency at its best.

Footnotes. Think Bedders will take this chance & become a key player for the remainder of the season. SR, you REALLY need to find another striker. Oh yes & nearly forgot, Murphy you are a total & utter knob.

 

[Saints FC 76]

Just got home. Few thoughts.

- Best game Diallo has ever played for us.

- Like the look of Alcaraz.

- Salisu had a decent game I thought.

- **** VAR

- Thought KWP was poor in attacking sense (by his standards at least)

- Don't see us going through now, though get an early goal and who knows.

- Think we played okay overall, better side in second half anyway. Draw wouldn't have been unfair imo.

- Ref favoured them down here even so we know what to expect up there.

- It's not football anymore.


UTFS

Diallo did play well, but was still shocking when it came to making simple passes. I get so tired of watching Saints just pass the ball out or give it to the opposition, it's infuriating and he's a top culprit for that. It says something that his best game for us is still not that great?

On the second point in bold, yeah we did play okay in the second half and with someone who can finish, we'd have scored at least once. The problem is we still lost the second half despite playing okay and creating a few chances. That's down to the strikers and also comes back to my comments after Villa about our team having a losing mentality.

I also think Newcastle should have scored at least three. Joelinton's disallowed goal in particular should have stood.

 

[Libby]

Pluses:
Good, battling performance with some flashes of quality. If we’d played like that vs Villa, we wouldn’t have lost.
1-0 HT. We’ve still got a chance.
Alcarez looks a gem.

Minuses:
Too many players who just haven’t got the quality at this level.
Early days but Orsic looked poor.
Che so out of form, no confidence.

Shout out to the ref for the first half time wasting booking. Consistency at its best.

Footnotes. Think Bedders will take this chance & become a key player for us for the remainder of the season. SR, you REALLY need to find another striker.

Forgot about that KWP booking in the first half. Not enough 's in the world.

 

[Saints FC 76]

Stewards were very slow in dealing with that. It was fairly close to where I was stood. A Saints fan headbutted one of the lads right in front of the copper.

Good job the club has taken steps to prevent away fans in home sections eh

Was the Saints fan arrested? Presume the Newcastle fans and a few Saints fans were kicked out after that?

 

[tomw24]

Quite frankly, I think DCC showed enormous restraint not to thump him. What a cock.

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[LincolnSaint]

Was the Saints fan arrested? Presume the Newcastle fans and a few Saints fans were kicked out after that?

Newcastle fans were kicked out, nothing happened to the Saints fans as far as I could see

 

[Libby]

Diallo did play well, but was still shocking when it came to making simple passes. I get so tired of watching Saints just pass the ball out or give it to the opposition, it's infuriating and he's a top culprit for that. It says something that his best game for us is still not that great?

On the second point in bold, yeah we did play okay in the second half and with someone who can finish, we'd have scored at least once. The problem is we still lost the second half despite playing okay and creating a few chances. That's down to the strikers and also comes back to my comments after Villa about our team having a losing mentality.

I also think Newcastle should have scored at least three. Joelinton's disallowed goal in particular should have stood.

Yeah I agree with pretty much all of that though their goal was rightly disallowed based on the rules (which are a crock of ****). Our lack of quality up top is just painfully obvious, especially during that second half spell. I don't think a draw would have been undeserved but it also easily could have been 1-3.

Diallo's passing was poor admittedly but that's not his strength. His tacking and breaking up play though was Wanyama like though, really was superb. I know I sound like a broken record but he really needs to play as part of a 3 as he can be so effective in the right system.

 

[Saints FC 76]

Newcastle fans were kicked out, nothing happened to the Saints fans as far as I could see

Maybe the new ticket policy is if you see an away fan in the home end, headbutts are allowed?

Not sure what Newcastle fans would expect by doing that to be honest.

 

[Libby]

Quite frankly, I think DCC showed enormous restraint not to thump him. What a cock.

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Part of me thinks I'd like that sort of thing if it was us but it just comes across as incredibly unprofessional and petty. There's a line of what ****housery is acceptable and that crosses it imo.

If karma really exists then DCC will return the favour next week after we beat them on pens.