1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

New Manager

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by THE EXCLUSIVE 10%, Sep 30, 2022.

  1. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    And what about the 80 or so league clubs who have been in existence for longer and have never had a BAME manager?
     
    #3321
  2. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Why do you think that is? Seems odd.
     
    #3322
  3. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,263
    Likes Received:
    14,047
    It jumped out for me when that question was asked.
    As you say, he answered it well.
    Skin colour will only stop being an 'issue' when people stop flagging it up (like with that utterly stupid question that was asked).
     
    #3323
  4. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,210
    Likes Received:
    6,775
    I think I made the initial comparison. It was in the context that he got some experience in the Championship and did reasonably well. Which should have better prepared him for the transfer window and for this season
     
    #3324
  5. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    Why concentrate on City? 3% of the population is black, so 1 1/2 %are black males. So 2 black managers out of 92 is a reflection of the numbers. Can do anything with data, can’t you?<laugh> The question to ask is how many of the many black footballers who have had successful careers here have been interested enough in pursuing a career in management to have taken their coaching badges to the required standard,
     
    #3325
  6. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Luckily as a white middle class male I have not had to struggle with skin colour being a issue.
     
    #3326
    Kalman likes this.
  7. Mckechnie Orange

    Mckechnie Orange Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 21, 2014
    Messages:
    13,926
    Likes Received:
    10,650
    Wheels deffo came off at West Brom and continued for the rest of his tenure.

    Looks like he lost the dressing room to me.
     
    #3327
  8. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    I like you Barca but you doing your raving posts.
     
    #3328
  9. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    You might have done accompanying me through Chapeltown in Leeds late at night having missed the last bus.<laugh>
     
    #3329
  10. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Lived in St Paul’s Bristol for years loved it.
     
    #3330

  11. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    Not raving. Quoting the data. Or statistics.
     
    #3331
  12. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Football data?
     
    #3332
  13. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    Chapeltown in the late 1960s was not a pleasant place to walk through late at night as a lone white male. Wasn’t particularly pleasant at any time of the day even in numbers. Funny how things change, in my grandad’s day being able to live in that area was an aspiration.
     
    #3333
    askewshair likes this.
  14. Gone For A Walk

    Gone For A Walk Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2011
    Messages:
    10,263
    Likes Received:
    14,047
    Well perhaps let's help then by not flagging it up as some sort of differentiator or 'issue'.
    Most kids don't even see it, we need to get to the same stage ... which won't ever happen whilst muppets keep unnecessarily flagging it up.
    Imposition of opposing values and cultures are however a different matter imo, but maybe not to go there (oops).
     
    #3334
    springtiger and Trumpton Tiger. like this.
  15. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    Population data.
     
    #3335
  16. GEvans76

    GEvans76 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2015
    Messages:
    4,723
    Likes Received:
    4,384
    Ok
     
    #3336
  17. Cityzen

    Cityzen Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 27, 2022
    Messages:
    13,609
    Likes Received:
    14,950
    Was talking to Curtis Woodhouse on Saturday night. No one ever considered his ethnicity when he was younger. Most just admired his ability at anything sporting and dads wished their kids could play football like him.
     
    #3337
  18. askewshair

    askewshair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    5,210
    Likes Received:
    6,775
    Did that many times in student days (maybe not with you). Lived round the corner from the Hayfield. Remember one evening (the year after the riots) stepping out the front door of our student digs. To my left were a large crowd of angry blacks. To the right, riot police. We quickly retreated back inside to watch from a front bedroom window. The tense stand off continued for a while, without escalating.
     
    #3338
  19. bradymk2

    bradymk2 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2020
    Messages:
    15,211
    Likes Received:
    13,267
    He admits to fighting at school and in the streets after being racially abused: "I went from scrapping in the street and at school to fighting in the boxing ring from the age of 12. I was called a few names due to the colour of my skin, but with a quick smack in the mouth they soon backed off"
     
    #3339
  20. Trumpton Tiger.

    Trumpton Tiger. Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2012
    Messages:
    9,335
    Likes Received:
    13,433
    Doesn't seem odd at all. The colour of a person's skin does not effect ability as a football manager. It's not even an issue. If a person is talented enough they would be employed if they had bright purple with green poka dots skin. Likewise a player, don't remember anyone bringing up this issue when Pele and the Brazilians were the best team in the world by a country mile.
     
    #3340
    GLP, TwoWrights, Ric Glasgow and 2 others like this.

Share This Page