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Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Bob the Mackem, Aug 26, 2022.

  1. Ozzymac

    Ozzymac Well-Known Member

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  2. Chunksafc

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    The club (as with any player) will have told him an approach has been made. Let's be honest they wouldn't make the approach without encouragement that he was interested.

    You cannot blame the club solely for this
     
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  3. Chunksafc

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    And Neil is completely 100% blameless in all of this?
     
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  4. Sydney Greenstreet

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    he's wanted to go and wanted them to try...it's like asking your mate to ask the mate of a lass you fancy if she'll gan out with you if you ask her
     
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  5. Prehab26

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    I mean if he wanted to earn less and have less protection , I guess he could stay. But given a longer deal he was promised didn't materialise , I don't blame him.
     
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  6. Chunksafc

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    So he's gone for more money?
     
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  7. rowley

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    The club have not just agreed to this. They have said that they " are contractually obliged " to allow him to speak to othe clubs if he wants to.

    If he did well that was bound to happen. Speakman, who appears to call all the shots was obviously comfortable with this.

    I hope he's comfortable now. But I expect more farce and chaos, followed by a bloke who can't believe his luck at being offered the job and can't say no to it.
     
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  8. Prehab26

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    A better contract and a total say on things.

    If his contract was sorted previously , he would still be here.
     
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  9. safcfansofaraway

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    It’s amazing how much blame is being attributed to different parties when very few know the real facts, this hasn’t just happened overnight.
     
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  10. Prehab26

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    King bluffer is speakman. Should be academy manager only. Not head of all decisions ffs.
     
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    This is unlike me, but if you've got something to add to the conversation, spit it out. Otherwise you sound like all the bellends apportioning blame without responsibility on here and RTG. No offence intended, I'm just ****ed off with the whole carnival.
     
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  12. rowley

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    Me neither.

    Treat like a throwaway underling. Speakman again.
     
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  13. Chunksafc

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    So essentially money then as the total say on things was never going to happen
     
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  14. safcfansofaraway

    safcfansofaraway Well-Known Member

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    So it’s just money, not a lack of control?
     
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  15. Southern A

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    just last night / this morning Neil was staying unless the club imploded. so perhaps it has.
     
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  16. rowley

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    So clear that. It is all he has ever done before here. He never played or coached at anything other than youth level.

    A grotesque chancer
     
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  17. rowley

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    Well put it this way.

    This is the result of one of two men. The owner, or the man he has employed to run the football operation.

    I'd bet quite a chunk on it being the latter. This just cannot be painted as other than a shambles. The club is behaving very small time indeed, and they are seeing where that gets you.
     
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  18. Southern A

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    got to assume there's been a proper falling out over whatever negotiations have happened over the last week or so.

    leaving the day before a game doesnt really feel like something he'd do unless pissed off
     
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  19. Confucius

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    Neil does take some flak in my book. However Speakman has been here about 18 months and following this he will be onto his 3rd Manager. For head of football operations, and someone responsible for stability, that is unacceptable.
     
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  20. safcfansofaraway

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    Is that really the case or is it another person who thinks that they are bigger than the club and can hold us to ransom?
     
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