An Evening With Acun...

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Is there a rough idea what dates the tour is liable to be?
 
And what's it going to take? The club can't be run on fresh air! It's going to cost a hell of a lot of money to make us competitive again. Our fans should be willing to back to club by paying a very reasonable "membership" to see us become that again

I really think you're still missing the point here. It isn't a question of whether people should go or whether the club deserves support. I think everyone on here will already agree that it does deserve support and that everyone in the City 'should' go. But the fact is currently the club isn't getting enough support and Acun wants to change that. He could just cross his arms and say the price is OK so therefore people 'should' come, but that obviously wouldn't change anything. Wavering fans aren't going to start coming back in droves because other people think that they should. They'll come back when the club appeals to them enough to make them want to come back. Acun seems to be aware that it's going to require big, exciting changes and pricing is the most obvious one in my opinion.
 
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I really think you're still missing the point here. It isn't a question of whether people should go or whether the club deserves support. I think everyone on here will already agree that it does deserve support and that everyone in the City 'should' go. But the fact is currently the club isn't getting enough support and Acun wants to change that. He could just cross his arms and say the price is OK so therefore people 'should' come, but that obviously wouldn't change anything. Wavering fans aren't going to start coming back in droves because other people think that they should. They'll come back when the club appeals to them enough to make them want to come back. Acun seems to be aware that it's going to require big, exciting changes and pricing is the most obvious one in my opinion.

Signings and results are the obvious ones.
 
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Signings and results are the obvious ones.

Signings if they're huge, Okocha-level names would work, otherwise it's not going to bring thousands back on its own.

Results eventually will bring plenty back, but it'd take a long time and we'd have to get those results playing in front of a half full stadium which is a huge disadvantage. Filling the ground first will really help the results. Acun knows this and said as much last night.
 
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Signings and results are the obvious ones.
I think Acun is going to drop a massive signing in, maybe a Jay Jay type signing, that would bring the fans in, the Ozil connection is already raising ripples, obviously he needs many more good championship players fit in the team, looking forward to the summer already
 
Signings if they're huge, Okocha-level names would work, otherwise it's not going to bring thousands back on its own.

Results eventually will bring plenty back, but it'd take a long time and we'd have to get those results playing in front of a half full stadium which is a huge disadvantage. Filling the ground first will really help the results. Acun knows this and said as much last night.
Great minds
 
I really think you're still missing the point here. It isn't a question of whether people should go or whether the club deserves support. I think everyone on here will already agree that it does deserve support and that everyone in the City 'should' go. But the fact is currently the club isn't getting enough support and Acun wants to change that. He could just cross his arms and say the price is OK so therefore people 'should' come, but that obviously wouldn't change anything. Wavering fans aren't going to start coming back in droves because other people think that they should. They'll come back when the club appeals to them enough to make them want to come back. Acun seems to be aware that it's going to require big, exciting changes and pricing is the most obvious one in my opinion.
The people who aren’t going now aren’t not going because of the price. Make it £100 a year and they still won’t go if we’re not winning or even scoring. The price is fine and anyone saying it should be cheaper I would wager is saying it out of self interest rather than the interest of Hull City.
 
The people who aren’t going now aren’t not going because of the price. Make it £100 a year and they still won’t go if we’re not winning or even scoring. The price is fine and anyone saying it should be cheaper I would wager is saying it out of self interest rather than the interest of Hull City.

Well I'm saying it and the only self-interest here is that I want more people to come with me. In fact, I don't particularly think it's memberships that need to come down most, I think the matchday pricing is the biggest issue that makes it seem inaccessible. I have several friends who like coming but they're not dyed in the wool City fans like you or I so they're not going to get a membership, not yet at least. Maybe we could get them hooked one day. They come when it's £2 though so I would say it's a straight up fact that it's the price that stops them coming. Same with any product or service - you pay the price if you think it's worth it; if people aren't paying it then the price is too high.

I've been dragged into discussing the question of value here but once again I really don't think that's actually the key point. The real issue is that we want a packed ground and we don't have it. We could take action to get those fans in, and Acun seems to plan to, but some people seem to think that such ambition is unnecessary and that we should just... leave them to it? I really don't get that. I want a full ground.
 
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Well I'm saying it and the only self-interest here is that I want more people to come with me. In fact, I don't particularly think it's memberships that need to come down most, I think the matchday pricing is the biggest issue that makes it seem inaccessible. I have several friends who like coming but they're not dyed in the wool City fans like you or I so they're not going to get a membership, not yet at least. Maybe we could get them hooked one day. They come when it's £2 though so I would say it's a straight up fact that it's the price that stops them coming. Same with any product or service - you pay the price if you think it's worth it; if people aren't paying it then the price is too high.

I've been dragged into discussing the question of value here but once again I really don't think that's actually the key point. The real issue is that we want a packed ground and we don't have it. We could take action to get those fans in, and Acun seems to plan to, but some people seem to think that such ambition is unnecessary and that we should just... leave them to it? I really don't get that. I want a full ground.
Would most people pay £20 to watch a game? Yes, however this last few months and indeed the next year is really going to put pressure on peoples spending, I can see a recession coming, all clubs will suffer, we are lucky the owner and his backer have money, he may well heavily subsidise fans to push the team to promotion, and the PL is the Golden Ticket, even though we all know it really isn’t.
 
I think we all agree the match tickets need to come down. I’d have them a few quid above what it costs on average for a member if it up to me. My specific gripe is people who are already members wanting to pay less. I want a full ground, but we can’t do it at £2 a go forever. We’re not very good at the minute and some people just don’t have the stomach for it.
 
Match day pricing is the biggest issue. It’s a stumbling block for those who can’t make every game and don’t have a particularly large disposable income. £27 for a team who’s ****e at home is ****e value. £20s plenty knock a fiver off for OAPs and the young adults, another fiver for teenagers and then u12s for £2-£5.
 
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Signings if they're huge, Okocha-level names would work, otherwise it's not going to bring thousands back on its own.

Results eventually will bring plenty back, but it'd take a long time and we'd have to get those results playing in front of a half full stadium which is a huge disadvantage. Filling the ground first will really help the results. Acun knows this and said as much last night.

Well there's the first thing we've agreed on in a while.

He seems to know that success on the pitch is what will get him his full stadium.

And his TV revenue, and his sportswear empire etc...

Be interesting to know how many, when we do fill our circa 24.5k capacity (with segregation etc..) will be hull, how many east riding and how many coming in from elsewhere.. .
 
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You would have thought that the drainage or light, having these lamps, they use, would have been an issue. During the EPL years I don't remember the pitch being as bad as it was this last season or two, why have things changed?

There seems to have been a never ending spending by the SMC on the pitch and yet somehow it's got worse.