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If we know Dinosaurs exist, the fact they reproduced is a given

Its not a given.

fact is eggs and fossils are 'proof'. For all we know they could have died out because they couldnt reproduce

The point is we reach a conclusion, based on what we know
We know nothing arises out of nothing, so a creator is a given, no?
 
why do you accept that is a given?

Just because we didn t have VHS DinoPorn we knew they had sex organs, are you seriously arguing that the bones and fossils is not proof they existed?. Obviously man didn t watch and record dinos ****ing but i can t understand that you don t except this, yet a bright light in your eyes =Allah..... Which was not recorded on VHS either.
 
Its not a given.

fact is eggs and fossils are 'proof'. For all we know they could have died out because they couldnt reproduce

The point is we reach a conclusion, based on what we know
We know nothing arises out of nothing, so a creator is a given, no?

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read <laugh>
 
FFS Erik, get a grip. He has seen eggs in Tesco, therefore it is logical to assume that all eggs come from Tesco and equally as logical, based on this, to assume gods exist.

It aint rocket science! Which is also illogical because no one knows how rocket scientists reproduce.

The Beatles did say they were the Eggmen (they are the eggmen, I am the walrus, goo goo g'joob). Maybe they deliver eggs and the stork delivers live young?
 
They existed for tens of millions of years you clown. How does your Theory of Jaffa Dinos get round this?

Also, how did these eggs come to be?

A long existence does not mean anything

we dont know how the eggs came to be.

There is NO evidence/proof how dinosaurs had sex
 
Just because we didn t have VHS DinoPorn we knew they had sex organs, are you seriously arguing that the bones and fossils is not proof they existed?. Obviously man didn t watch and record dinos ****ing but i can t understand that you don t except this, yet a bright light in your eyes =Allah..... Which was not recorded on VHS either.

Do we know this?

Of course they existed

we exist too

whats your point?
 
A long existence does not mean anything

we dont know how the eggs came to be.

There is NO evidence/proof how dinosaurs had sex

So there's no evidence of dinos having sex. Yet we've found fossilised dinosaur eggs.

Does that mean the eggs popped into existence out of nothing?
 
so telling me my religion?

No, clearly not.
Your claim to follow a particular religion comes with certain baggage.
Christians believe in Christ, for example.

where did they come form, were they 'majicked'?

You've yet to show that it's necessary that they came from anywhere.

so created?

Not in the sense that you mean, which is why I objected to the term in the first place.

do you know how many ifs buts and maybes are involved in the evolution of the eye? The eyes earliest fossils are found in the cambrian period. And as you will know the cambrian period is what Darwin saw as the biggest objection to his theory

There are no if, buts and maybes.
Please explain what you believe these are.

so define it and we can continue from a set point, as I have repeatedly asked and you dont seem to do

As I've already stated, the question's wrong.
You're presupposing the answer.

Feel free to ask a different one.
It's not clear what you want to know from the OP, which is why you've had answers from cosmology, biology, philosophy and any other -y's you can think of.

as I said in the absence of you offering a 'meaning' or word then I will have to use one. Then you can continue being semantic

I've already explained this to you repeatedly.
I'm not being semantic, as you put it, I'm telling you why your question's wrong.
Creation presupposes a creator.

What would you like to know?
It's your question.

can the unknowable exist?

I don't know!
Assuming that it does, then we can't know it, which would suggest that it would have no measurable affect upon our material existence.
That would make it largely irrelevant.
 
You admit dinos existed? You admit dino eggs existed? Because you didn t personally witness the bit in between, you dismiss this?..... I have a migrane ,you odd ****er