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  1. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    how about an unknowable creator?

    Quantum physics does not attempt to address the creator question really does it?

    and dont be a git, explain
     
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  2. thefanwithnoname

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    can YOu prove how dinosaurs had sex?
     
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  3. SUPERNORWICH 23

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    The condition of being uneducated, unaware, or uninformed. ignorance [ˈɪgnərəns]. n. lack of knowledge, information, or education; the state of being ignorant ... TFWNN
     
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  4. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    science does

    quantum physics doesnt

    some science avoids what it cant answer, or makes it up
     
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  5. Craigo

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    I think its pretty certain that 7-8000 years ago we were amoral, I can't imagine many men in the Neolithic period having qualms about rape for example.
     
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  6. The Raging Oxter

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    You want me to explain quantum physics to you?

    Sure. Here we go...
     
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  7. The Raging Oxter

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    Why are you so obsessed with dinosaur sex?
     
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  8. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Thats just asking for trouble

    It has taken a lot of energy not to be 'offensive' (in a funny way of course)
     
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  9. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Its not certain at all.
     
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    Do pet dogs go to heaven?
     
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  11. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    close the door on your way out. Thanks <ok>
     
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  12. JonahJameson

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    There are plenty of theories as to how and why religion might have evolved, Richard Dawkins summarises a few in The God Delusion, but there are more detailed expositions elsewhere.

    Off course, the claim of the religious is that pre-&#8220;civilisation&#8221; man&#8217;s habit of deifying rocks, the sea, the thunder or whatever is &#8220;proof&#8221; of the immanence of religion within the human condition, ergo, proving religion itself. Ditto human traits like generosity, kindness, tendency to cooperation and community and so on. All down to the deity, y&#8217;know. Otherwise it&#8217;s all &#8220;movement of atoms&#8221;.

    Altruistic behaviour is a RESULT of natural selection. It's what Richard Dawkins wrote his first book about in 1976, and has been detailed in masses of studies ever since. Altruism is a powerful tool for survival among social mammals like ourselves. There is a powerful selection pressure that promotes it.

    On the back of our evolved social altruism we get civilization, agriculture, science, medicine, art and culture. The true weakness is selfishness, self-centredness and isolation, because that shuts an individual off from the vastly greater resources of shared effort.

    Many other creatures have developed altruism. It&#8217;s not universal, because not all animals have evolved in social communities. Sharks have evolved as lone hunters in the main. Altruism is not a very good survival strategy when you're configured to be a lone hunter. But for intelligent, social, group-living creatures like primates it's absolutely vital.

    Nothing to do with magic sky wizards who stood by for something like 150,000 years while humans were dying of tooth decay by 20 and cowering terrified from the thunder and the earthquakes (must be the gods). And no amazing coincidence that this deification of natural phenomena transferred to something more formal on the advent of agriculture and civilisation as we might know it.

    I&#8217;m not sure Darwin ever said &#8220;survival of the fittest&#8221; but either way he wasn&#8217;t talking about a &#8220;nasty, brutish and short" Hobbesian free for all.

    If you&#8217;d ever read a book that dealt in reason and logic you might already have gathered that.
     
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  13. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    Islamically?

    No
     
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    How about christian pet dogs?
     
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    Agreed.
    I'll stick with my belief that religion was invented to keep the masses in their place.
     
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    You clearly don t take an active interest in your 6 children? How do you hold down a job, go to Mosque keep making new kids help your pregnant wife prepare food, bath time and supervise their homework etc? And still post on this groundhog day thread?...... Some or all of your story is bullshit
     
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  17. thefanwithnoname

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  18. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    infidels

    <laugh>
     
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  19. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    only small issue with that is that religion told people to challenge authority
     
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  20. thefanwithnoname

    thefanwithnoname Well-Known Member

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    I dont have a 'typical' job at the moment

    Its all true. never felt the need to lie.
     
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