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PleaseNotPoll said:
No, clearly not.
Your claim to follow a particular religion comes with certain baggage.
Christians believe in Christ, for example.



You've yet to show that it's necessary that they came from anywhere.



Not in the sense that you mean, which is why I objected to the term in the first place.



There are no if, buts and maybes.
Please explain what you believe these are.



As I've already stated, the question's wrong.
You're presupposing the answer.

Feel free to ask a different one.
It's not clear what you want to know from the OP, which is why you've had answers from cosmology, biology, philosophy and any other -y's you can think of.



I've already explained this to you repeatedly.
I'm not being semantic, as you put it, I'm telling you why your question's wrong.
Creation presupposes a creator.

What would you like to know?
It's your question.



I don't know!
Assuming that it does, then we can't know it, which would suggest that it would have no measurable affect upon our material existence.
That would make it largely irrelevant.
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more semantics and assumption I see.

As I said suggest the right word in terms of how it started and we will begin there
 
YeOldeBlueGas said:
Sounds like the basis of Nazism
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Hitler actually shared TFWNN's views on evolution.
"Where do we acquire the right to believe that man has not always been what he is now? The study of nature teaches us that, in the animal kingdom just as much as in the vegetable kingdom, variations have occurred. They've occurred within the species, but none of these variations has an importance comparable with that which separates man from the monkey — assuming that this transformation really took place."

Coincidence?
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Everything.
All matter and energy.

There, that was easy, wasn't it?
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based on what we know

energy certainly doesnt just appear.
as for matter - based on what we know it cannot just appear from nowhere. It has to have a source and besides there is no set definition of matter
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Are you Anjem Choudary or do you have a similar non-job, which involves sponging from the state that you claim to despise?
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Anjem works from what I understand. As I said I can arrange a meeting for you to ask hi directly if you wish

as for me, I never claimed i despise this state
and I spend less time on here than you I think

are you on the dole?
 
thefanwithnoname said:
more semantics and assumption I see.

As I said suggest the right word in terms of how it started and we will begin there
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No semantics and no assumption.
Just lots of proof that you're wrong and you either refuse to read anything that proves it or you're incapable of understanding what you've read.

The question is wrong.
Ask it again in a way that doesn't have a presupposition.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
No semantics and no assumption.
Just lots of proof that you're wrong and you either refuse to read anything that proves it or you're incapable of understanding what you've read.

The question is wrong.
Ask it again in a way that doesn't have a presupposition.
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No proof whatsoever that has not been debunked.

I suggest you phrase the question. You obviously know what I am asking.
make a few suggestions and we will agree to go with one if we can
 
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