question for athiests

So does that mean the babies just popped into existence? What's your take on it?

 

I asked this in the original question, but you've ignored it, so I'll ask it again.
What has been debunked?
By who and what have they said?
You seem to think that just claiming that something has been debunked is proof, for some reason.

I asked you to clarify the question in my first response.
You still haven't asked a coherent question, though.

Are you asking how the universe started?
We don't know that it did.
We have an idea of what happened some time after the big bang, but we currently have no idea what happened immediately after it or at any point beforehand.

 

I'm sure you'll have no problem posting it on here, then.

 

Is there some claim there about anything appearing?
I don't see it.

What's to say that matter and energy haven't always existed?

 

I believe based on what we know we can conclude dinosaurs had sex

 

why this is relevant on this thread I dont know

but anyway. By the way the interviewer is Tony Blairs sister in law

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70zBFdjKfuY

 

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simply put all your 'proof' has been answered

I have asked you to rphrase the question

based on what we know, we can conclude everything has a source/origin/creator?

 

Only at the macroscopic level. Why can't you get it into your head that things act differently at the atomic level?

 

as I asked what does this mean?

Yes, based upon what we know, matter and energy just exist and do not have an overall source.

I see you dont like answering questions

 

I have never denied this though

I just wonder why we can conclude this without 'proof'

but not other things

based on what we know of course

 

He refuses to discuss his employment and says that he's not claiming job-seeker's allowance.
This is because he has a non-job and claims income support.
He justifies this by claiming that this money comes from Allah, to avoid accusations of hypocrisy.
Unless Allah pays tax in Britain, he's clearly talking out of his arse.

I did like the bit where he said, "We don't take any money from the government", before realising that this was totally wrong and adding, "in order to have an agenda against Islam or Muslims", though!
Very funny!

 

micro or macro is just a diversion

somewhere along the line something has to 'appear' which you all argue is impossible

so it must have an origin

 

So he doesnt sign on

but recieves child benefit etc?

By definition all things to a muslim come from Allah.
As a British citizen its a right, untill that changes youre **** out of luck

and again I ask why is/was this relevant to this debate?

 

If the proof that I've posted has been countered, then feel free to link to those debunking it.
Why aren't you doing that?

No, we can't conclude that and I've explained why not.

 

Thankyou

and that preponderance of evidence also leads to the conclusion that everything has an origin. It comes from somewhere/something

 

Do you believe that Muslims will rule the World, and Kaffers <not the SA Kind> will convert to Islam or be killed at the hands of the merciful overlords? UK will live under Sharia law and men that refuse to grow beards beaten? Women that don t cover their faces or drive systematically beaten?

 

because I answered it point by point in red, and you just came back with 'no it doesnt' etc

So matter and energy was magicked?

 

In a word No