Transfer Rumours Summer Transfer Thread 21/22

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After deciding to leave a Hull side who won the League One title to return to the Championship last season, on what he thinks is the aim from Town chief Jones, who led the Hatters to a 12th place finish, Burke added: "He is ambitious, everyone has to be.

"It is nice to come to a place where everybody works hard and gets what they deserve at that end of the day.

"I believe that Luton will hopefully push on and get play-offs this season but if not then next season.

"Nathan wants to keep building, the club is going in the right direction and all I see is positive things.

“As soon as you start working with everybody, the players and staff, you buy into what they want to do and I think that’s when you become a part of it.

“I’m not going to walk into Luton and think, ‘hang on a minute, I’m flying here’.

“I need to work my way in, becoming part of the team, because I’m a new face around the training ground, and build that way.

“I’m excited for it, looking forward to it. I know the staff all seem very driven and that’s what I want.”
 
Steven Toast said:
That's inference on the reader's part though, I don't think it's implication on his. Because as we know, the dressing room was pretty united and I can't see somebody like Jacob Greaves or Alfie Jones being lazy and still getting in the team.
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It's not inference, it's explicitly meant by what he said.
 
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Howdentiger2 said:
Run of the mill HDM ****e then basically
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Its not like them ?
Do you think they will have a 'roving reporter' scouring pub beer gardens today for broken bottles, glasses, discarded crisp packets, overflowing ashtrays, up turned chairs etc so they have the usual 'Football thugs/hooligans/riot/mayhem' headlines for Monday's rag ?
 
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Urika Peece. said:
Its not like them ?
Do you think they will have a 'roving reporter' scouring pub beer gardens today for broken bottles, glasses, discarded crisp packets, overflowing ashtrays, up turned chairs etc so they have the usual 'Football thugs/hooligans/riot/mayhem' headlines for Monday's rag ?
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Just as sure as I am that if it was a rugby derby, they would all be sat at home and "not see any trouble"
 
SydneyTiger14 said:
It's not inference, it's explicitly meant by what he said.
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He said he was pleased to come to a place where everybody works hard. Those were his exact words.

At no point did he say "It's nice to come to a place that works hard because at the last place everybody coasted."

If he'd said "I'm pleased to be part of a team that actually works hard." then you could suppose he was pointing out that players at City didn't.

As it is, he's just paying compliment to his current employers and bigging them up. Anything else is just assumption on the reader's part.
 
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Steven Toast said:
He said he was pleased to come to a place where everybody works hard. Those were his exact words.

At no point did he say "It's nice to come to a place that works hard because at the last place everybody coasted."

If he'd said "I'm pleased to be part of a team that actually works hard." then you could suppose he was pointing out that players at City didn't.

As it is, he's just paying compliment to his current employers and bigging them up. Anything else is just assumption on the reader's part.
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You're playing semantics to make an argument where there is none.

In no world does someone say "It's nice to be somewhere where X happens" and not mean that he was not at a place where X happened previously.
 
Steven Toast said:
He said he was pleased to come to a place where everybody works hard. Those were his exact words.

At no point did he say "It's nice to come to a place that works hard because at the last place everybody coasted."

If he'd said "I'm pleased to be part of a team that actually works hard." then you could suppose he was pointing out that players at City didn't.

As it is, he's just paying compliment to his current employers and bigging them up. Anything else is just assumption on the reader's part.
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You did leave off the rest of that sentence though, and that does change the context slightly

‘…and gets what they deserve at that end of the day’ quite obviously sounds like people didn’t get what they deserved here

Not that I give a **** one way or the other. Onwards and upwards CTID
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
You're playing semantics to make an argument where there is none.

In no world does someone say "It's nice to be somewhere where X happens" and not mean that he was not at a place where X happened previously.
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It isn't about semantics, because I've quoted him verbatim. The issue here is assumption.

I'm talking about what he actually said, others seem to be assuming what he meant. If that's what people want to hear, so be it, but it's not what he said and it's wrong to put that in the media as fact. There's enough tribalism going around at the minute without the added jag of assuming what people might actually mean being piled in as well.

And when I started my new job, somebody asked me how I was finding it and I said it was great to work with so many talented people. That doesn't mean I was implying that there weren't talented people at my previous place of work.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
You're playing semantics to make an argument where there is none.

In no world does someone say "It's nice to be somewhere where X happens" and not mean that he was not at a place where X happened previously.
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Is it just a one sided play on semantics or can that be applied both ways?
 
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dennisboothstash said:
You did leave off the rest of that sentence though, and that does change the context slightly

‘…and gets what they deserve at that end of the day’ quite obviously sounds like people didn’t get what they deserved here

Not that I give a **** one way or the other. Onwards and upwards CTID
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It doesn't obviously sound like that at all unless that's how you want to take it.... The guys been there a few days, how does he know they get what they deserve?... Its a typical new signing interview puff piece, nothing more nothing less!
 
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dennisboothstash said:
You did leave off the rest of that sentence though, and that does change the context slightly

‘…and gets what they deserve at that end of the day’ quite obviously sounds like people didn’t get what they deserved here

Not that I give a **** one way or the other. Onwards and upwards CTID
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But then what does that even mean? Is the suggestion there that he's begruding Jones and Greaves a place in the squad because they coasted? Jordy didn't walk into the squad, he spent two seasons playing Championship football, couldn't get into the League One squad and was shipped out.

I think it's a slow news day and I'm happy to get Baz a stepladder to reach the straws just out of his reach.
 
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SydneyTiger14 said:
Who the **** cares, the guy's gone, but to try and make out that he's not making a clear comment about his former club is hilarious.
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People desperate to find things to turn into any form of negativity towards the club they supposedly support is hilarious more like.

You'll find quotes like that up and down the land every single time a new players signs.
 
Howdentiger2 said:
People desperate to find things to turn into any form of negativity towards the club they supposedly support is hilarious more like.

You'll find quotes like that up and down the land every single time a new players signs.
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Doubt it. If it's easy to find, care to quote another quote like that that indicates a negative slant to the player's former club?
 
Steven Toast said:
But then what does that even mean? Is the suggestion there that he's begruding Jones and Greaves a place in the squad because they coasted? Jordy didn't walk into the squad, he spent two seasons playing Championship football, couldn't get into the League One squad and was shipped out.

I think it's a slow news day and I'm happy to get Baz a stepladder to reach the straws just out of his reach.
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I’ve not read anything about it other than comments on here so maybe have missed something
I didn’t read it that he thought anyone was coasting, merely that he felt he didn’t get what his own hard work deserved
Possibly subconsciously kidding himself, but that’s how I read it.
 
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