Off Topic Trump supporters breaching Capitol Hill in Washington DC

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Trump is now tweeting that the demonstrators / rioters are patriots and sends them his love. This is the POTUS inciting Americans to attack the countries institutions and block the democratic process. Do his supporters on this site still think he's a better choice than Joe Biden who is asking for unity?
 
My first thought - was policing around the capitol building beefed up and the national guard on standby for this?

Second thought - if it was left up to the various policemen of this forum how many of them would have insisted on the precautions mentioned in my first thought?
Firstly it’s way above my pay grade but I’d assume that plans were in place to prevent this from happening. How those plans were executed is another thing entirely.
 
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Firstly it’s way above my pay grade but I’d assume that plans were in place to prevent this from happening. How those plans were executed is another thing entirely.
Yea, you would have expected some sort of planning.

I can't see that if there was a plan then it wasn't implemented, lack of any plan would seem more probable.

Given Trump's earlier rally they can't really have just been expecting hundreds of his crazies to saunter up to congress and stand outside, nicely socially distanced and shout slogans, because that's what it looks like they were planning on happening!

The upshot from this, and the democrats gaining control of the senate, is that 20th January's Inauguration could be interesting.
 
Yea, you would have expected some sort of planning.

I can't see that if there was a plan then it wasn't implemented, lack of any plan would seem more probable.

Given Trump's earlier rally they can't really have just been expecting hundreds of his crazies to saunter up to congress and stand outside, nicely socially distanced and shout slogans, because that's what it looks like they were planning on happening!

The upshot from this, and the democrats gaining control of the senate, is that 20th January's Inauguration could be interesting.
I'd say the 21st could be more interesting if the State of New York decide to charge him with tax evasion
 
Shame they can't have police waiting to arrest him after 12.01hrs, but I doubt Trump will appear at the Inauguration anyway.
 
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History will rightly remember today’s violence at the Capitol, incited by a sitting president who has continued to baselessly lie about the outcome of a lawful election, as a moment of great dishonor and shame for our nation, but we’d be kidding ourselves if we treated it as a total surprise.

For two months now, a political party and its accompanying media ecosystem has too often been unwilling to tell their followers the truth — that this was not a particularly close election and that President-Elect Biden will be inaugurated on January 20th. Their fantasy narrative has spiraled further and further from reality, and it builds upon years of sown resentments. Now we’re seeing the consequences, whipped up into a violent crescendo.

Right now, Republican leaders have a choice made clear in the desecrated chambers of democracy. They can continue down this road and keep stoking the raging fires. Or they can choose reality and take the first steps toward extinguishing the flames. They can choose America.

I’ve been heartened to see many members of the President’s party speak up forcefully today. Their voices add to the examples of Republican state and local election officials in states like Georgia who’ve refused to be intimidated and have discharged their duties honorably. We need more leaders like these — right now and in the days, weeks, and months ahead as President-Elect Biden works to restore a common purpose to our politics. It’s up to all of us as Americans, regardless of party, to support him in that goal.
 
History will rightly remember today’s violence at the Capitol, incited by a sitting president who has continued to baselessly lie about the outcome of a lawful election, as a moment of great dishonor and shame for our nation, but we’d be kidding ourselves if we treated it as a total surprise.

For two months now, a political party and its accompanying media ecosystem has too often been unwilling to tell their followers the truth — that this was not a particularly close election and that President-Elect Biden will be inaugurated on January 20th. Their fantasy narrative has spiraled further and further from reality, and it builds upon years of sown resentments. Now we’re seeing the consequences, whipped up into a violent crescendo.

Right now, Republican leaders have a choice made clear in the desecrated chambers of democracy. They can continue down this road and keep stoking the raging fires. Or they can choose reality and take the first steps toward extinguishing the flames. They can choose America.

I’ve been heartened to see many members of the President’s party speak up forcefully today. Their voices add to the examples of Republican state and local election officials in states like Georgia who’ve refused to be intimidated and have discharged their duties honorably. We need more leaders like these — right now and in the days, weeks, and months ahead as President-Elect Biden works to restore a common purpose to our politics. It’s up to all of us as Americans, regardless of party, to support him in that goal.
Sounds a lot like RTG :)
 
The most worryiing aspect is that these aren't people fanatically supporting democracy, a party or even a man ...

... they're supporting a 'character', and quite fanatically.

It's a personality cult, let's be honest.

In their eyes he's blameless and, when things go wrong, there simply must be someone else to blame. Any criticism, no matter what, is automatically rounded upon and vilified.

It all reminds me of of that great American philosopher, Winston Wolfe, who once said,

"Of course, just because you are a character, doesn't mean you have character."

Trump is a blustering buffoon with a ludicrous rhetoric and a hairstyle to match ...

... yet four Americans chose to defend him to the death last night, literally.
 
How long has he got left as president? After this I'd be wanting him removed from office as after yesterday he is clearly not fit to finish his term.
 
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How long has he got left as president? After this I'd be wanting him removed from office as after yesterday he is clearly not fit to finish his term.
Apparently there are some within the Republican Party who are looking to enact the 25th amendment which is how to remove the sitting president.
 
Apparently there are some within the Republican Party who are looking to enact the 25th amendment which is how to remove the sitting president.

I think that would be a big mistake that would play right into the mob's hands ...

... they're desperate for more reasons to believe it's all an anti-Trump conspiracy.
 
I think that would be a big mistake that would play right into the mob's hands ...

... they're desperate for more reasons to believe it's all an anti-Trump conspiracy.

I tend to agree. Should let him fade away in to obscurity.
 
Apparently there are some within the Republican Party who are looking to enact the 25th amendment which is how to remove the sitting president.
As we know with most kids these days if you remove something they like, they tend to get stroppy.

Trump is acting like an 8 year old who can't have a ps5, so God knows what he would try if he even thought they were taking his ball away.

I see twitter, Facebook etc have suspended his accounts I'm half expecting him to announce they are banned in the USA later on today